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Title: [GreenYes] CAW shilling y?

Hi Brad -

Dan has just sent out his own response, but this is mine, also from 
Urban Ore.

Reuse is a cross-materials category and includes all the other 
categories of resources.  Anything included as a Reusable wouldn't be 
counted in the physical-properties categories.  Dan Knapp developed 
this set of 12 Master Categories (except for the 13th one called "no 
market"), and I helped a bit, so the list is copyrighted by him and me 
but can be used by anyone if credit is given.  Its point is to profile 
the discard supply by physical properties for the purpose of sending 
everything to recycling.  The City of Berkeley used the set in a 
composition analysis done by an engineering contractor, and there was 
nothing left out and nothing left over, so the set has been shown to 
be comprehensive.  The engineers required a couple of "miscellaneous" 
categories similar to this set's "no market" category, but the 
components can be divided into the other recycling categories.  Reuse 
spans the other categories because objects from any of the physical-
properties categories might be reusable - metal shelving, wooden desks 
or lumber, paint (chemicals), plastic plant pots, clothing, and so on.

In this chart Reuse is shown as comprising only 2 percent of the 
discard supply, which may be an underestimate for objects that 
arrive.  Also, Reuse expands when reuse facilities exist to handle 
objects carefully rather than letting them be broken and rendered 
unreusable.  Dan's generic estimate is that reusable goods are about 5 
percent of the discard stream.  The study done in Berkeley using these 
categories found 2 percent, but Urban Ore was already established as a 
diversion business, so not everything showed up that would be dumped 
in other places without reuse operators specializing in this niche.  
Also, Urban Ore staff might have thought more was reusable than the 
engineers could see; it's amazing what the public will buy as-is.  We 
used to requre that salvagers have sales experience before salvaging 
so they'd understand.  These days we estimate about 75 percent of our 
supply is delivered to our door, bypassing the tipping face completely.

The per-ton value of $550 for reusables is fair, perhaps a bit low by 
today's sale prices.  Paintings are worth more per ton than bricks, so 
the overall per-ton value depends on the mix.  Objects may be worth 
more when delivered to the reuse facility by their owner than they are 
after being loaded up by a contractor or hauler, then dumped, then 
salvaged.  But $550 is a pretty good estimate for materials from all 

Most of Urban Ore's reusable goods would have been landfilled if we 
weren't there.  We salvage them from the dump, pick them up when 
people call, or receive them when people bring them to us 360 days a 
year.  Retail categories include doors, windows, sinks, tubs, toilets, 
lumber, fencing, tile, marble and granite, pipe (metal, plastic, and 
ceramic), garden supplies and furniture, cabinets, hardware and tools, 
sporting goods, bed frames, home and office furniture, lighting, 
books, music, art supplies, office supplies, home electronics, 
software, housewares, and clothing.  After 28 years in business in an 
urban area we have accumulated nearly three acres of stuff.  But we 
helped a tiny coastal community in Oregon develop a 12-category zero 
waste facility, and although the store is on a far smaller scale, I'd 
guess their reusables fall into similar categories.

Valuation is an interesting process.  Recycling recovers just the 
resources, so an aluminum can is a can is a can, and its value can be 
looked up on a current market chart.  But reusable goods are valued as 
individual items.  A door, for example, may have been mass produced 
and was exactly like every other door in its batch.  But it went into 
a particular house and stayed there, and when the house settled, the 
top had to be shaved a little.  Then its knob and lockset was changed 
to something else, and it was painted a chosen color, and it 
accumulated individual scuffs as part of the everyday process of 
living.  Over 20-30 years, it has become an individual.  Therefore it 
is priced as an individual according to size, type, quality of 
manufacture, and particularities of condition.

When we helped Recycle Ann Arbor set up their reuse program, they 
wanted to interview contractors to see if there would be enough 
building materials available.  We wrote interview questions.  One of 
them asked if, when they're remodeling, they would take out old 
cabinets differently if they had a reuse facility to take them to.  
The answer was yes - they would bash less and deconstruct more if 
there were a reuse facility.  So if there's a facility, its existence 
will change behavior.

Hope this helps.

Mary Lou Van Deventer
Operations Manager
Urban Ore, Inc.
To End the Age of Waste

900 Murray St.
Berkeley, CA  94710

On Aug 8, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Brad Guy wrote:

> Hello Ric Anthony,
> Could you clarify this chart.. "Reuse" is a process and all the 
> other lines are materials types.. the "Reuse" is 2.0% of total 
> therefore does it exlcude all the materials types listed ? does this 
> mean there is no reuse for any of them only recycle?  and if so then 
> what are the Reuse materials types?
> Thanks,
> Brad
> Brad Guy
> Ph.D. Program
> School of Architecture
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Cell: 814-571-8659
> The 2009 Building Materials Reuse Association International 
> Deconstruction and Reuse Conference will be held in Chicago, IL, 
> April 27-29, 2009. Check for monthly updates 
> including the call for presentations.
> --- On Fri, 8/8/08, RicAnthony@no.address <RicAnthony@no.address> wrote:
>> From: RicAnthony@no.address <RicAnthony@no.address>
>> Subject: [GreenYes] CAW shilling y?
>> To: RicAnthony@no.address, hspie@no.address, GreenYes@no.address, zwia@no.address
>> Cc: gary@no.address, RAbbe@no.address, nseldman@no.address
>> Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 2:23 PM
>> I am sorry, i need a better proof reader than  me..
>> It is estimated that there is at least 100 million  dollars
>> in lost revenue
>> in LA annually.
>> This is using a 100% capture rate, but relatively low
>> rates for paper ($20)
>> and metal ($40)
>> Los Angeles
>> Categories
>> %
>> Annual  Tons
>> $/ton
>> $
>> 1.     Reuse
>> 2.0
>> 72,000
>> 550
>> 39,600,000
>> 2.     Paper
>> 22.0
>> 792,000
>> 20
>> 15,840,000
>> 3.     Plant  Debris
>> 5.5
>> 198,000
>> 7
>> 1,386,000
>> 4.     Putrescibles
>> 17.0
>> 612,000
>> 7
>> 4,284,000
>> 5.     Wood
>> 4.0
>> 144,000
>> 8
>> 1,152,000
>> 6.     Ceramics
>> 13.0
>> 468,000
>> 4
>> 1,872,000
>> 7.     Soils
>> 10.0
>> 360,000
>> 7
>> 2,520,000
>> 8.     Metals
>> 4.0
>> 144,000
>> 40
>> 5,760,000
>> 9.     Glass
>> 2.0
>> 72,000
>> 10
>> 720,000
>> 10.     Polymers
>> 8.0
>> 288,000
>> 100
>> 28,800,000
>> 11.     Textiles
>> 2.0
>> 72,000
>> 200
>> 14,400,000
>> 12.     Chemicals
>> 0.5
>> 18,000
>> 15
>> 270,000
>> No market  e.g. diapers, treated wood,  mistakes
>> 10.0
>> 360,000
>> 0
>> Total
>> 100
>> 3,600,000
>> $116,604,000
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