[GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn close to ZW!

[Anne Peters <annep@no.address>]

Maybe us greenyessers should send a letter to this County!

Monica Wilson wrote:

> There are endless problems with technologies like plasma, gasification 
> and pyrolysis of MSW, especially the problems already mentioned below. 
> That's why we call them Incinerators In Disguise -- if it walks like a 
> duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck, it's a duck. Don't be 
> fooled by the recycled language that we've all heard before: 
> "conversion", "transformation", "garbage to energy". It's the exact 
> same language from the 80s, and the consequences are the same: wasting 
> resources, wasting jobs, wasting money, air and water pollution, 
> contaminated ash, and on and on. As always, there's no question that 
> these incinerators directly compete with recycling and zero waste.
>  
> Check out our look at the massive problems suffered by these kinds 
> of incinerator projects around the world:
> http://www.no-burn.org/resources/library/Factsheet_IncinInDisguise_Apr2006.pdf
>  
> And a shorter factsheet about these incinerators here:
> http://www.no-burn.org/resources/library/Incinerators_In_Disguise_CaseStudies.pdf
>  
> If you hear about any proposals, please share them with me immediately!
>  
> Thanks,
> Monica
>
> --
> Monica Wilson
> GAIA: Global Alliance for Incinerator Alternatives, 
> http://www.no-burn.org <http://www.no-burn.org/>
> 1442A Walnut St #20, Berkeley, CA 94709 USA
> +1-510-883-9490  ext. 103
> mwilson@no.address <mailto:mwilson@no.address>
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> From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On 
> Behalf Of mgminstrell@no.address
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:52 PM
> To: GreenYes@no.address
> Subject: [GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn 
> close to ZW!
>
>  One "byproduct" is energy... what is another?  Ash maybe?  What can 
> be done with this wonderful "byproduct"?  How will it be used/disposed 
> of?  (Not how -can- it, but how -will- it?  Show me examples of who 
> has used it...)  Won't it be awefully toxic.  Representatives of a 
> similar company trying to build on in a community many years ago 
> couldn't answer these questions for me then... 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Chalfan <lchalfan@no.address>
> To: 'Greenyes List' <GreenYes@no.address>
> Sent: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:16:59 -0700
> Subject: [GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn 
> close to ZW!
>
> I hope so too.  
>
> On top of that, doesnât this mean that they will need a lot of waste 
> for a long time?
>
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> From: Anne Peters <annep@no.address>
> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:05:35 -0600
> Cc: 'Greenyes List' <GreenYes@no.address>
> Subject: [GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn 
> close to ZW!
>
> I just really hope St. Lucie County has thoroughly checked out this 
> company's credibility; the payback period; assumptions behind the pro 
> forma; financing sources; etc. There is a long history in the waste 
> field of con artists selling the latest "black box" super-duper 
> technology ("we'll turn your garbage in to gold")- especially outside 
> of big cities - and getting the financing and then vanishing in the 
> night...
>
> Eric Lombardi wrote:
>
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>     ST. LUCIE   COUNTY FLORIDA WILL EMPLOY PLASMA ARC GASIFICATION TO
>     DEAL   WITH WASTE
>       
>                St.  Lucie County Commissioners recently authorized a
>     plan to contract with Atlanta   based Geoplasma LLC to build a
>     plasma arc gasification plant that is expected   to gasify at
>     least 3,000 tons of waste per day. Plasma arcs produce a type of
>       artificial lightning that heats anything in its path upwards of
>     7,000 degrees   C. A byproduct of the process is combustible gas
>     which, in this case, will be   used to generate enough electricity
>     to power 37,000 to 48,000 homes. The   plant will cost $400
>     million and take two years to build.        
>
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>     Eric Lombardi
>      
>     Executive Director/CEO
>      
>     Eco-Cycle Inc
>      
>     Boulder, CO. USA
>       
>     303-444-6634
>      
>     www.ecocycle.org <http://www.ecocycle.org>
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