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[GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn close to ZW!


Maybe us greenyessers should send a letter to this County!

Monica Wilson wrote:

> There are endless problems with technologies like plasma, gasification
> and pyrolysis of MSW, especially the problems already mentioned below.
> That's why we call them Incinerators In Disguise -- if it walks like a
> duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck, it's a duck. Don't be
> fooled by the recycled language that we've all heard before:
> "conversion", "transformation", "garbage to energy". It's the exact
> same language from the 80s, and the consequences are the same: wasting
> resources, wasting jobs, wasting money, air and water pollution,
> contaminated ash, and on and on. As always, there's no question that
> these incinerators directly compete with recycling and zero waste.
>
> Check out our look at the massive problems suffered by these kinds
> of incinerator projects around the world:
> http://www.no-burn.org/resources/library/Factsheet_IncinInDisguise_Apr2006.pdf
>
> And a shorter factsheet about these incinerators here:
> http://www.no-burn.org/resources/library/Incinerators_In_Disguise_CaseStudies.pdf
>
> If you hear about any proposals, please share them with me immediately!
>
> Thanks,
> Monica
>
> --
> Monica Wilson
> GAIA: Global Alliance for Incinerator Alternatives,
> http://www.no-burn.org <http://www.no-burn.org/>
> 1442A Walnut St #20, Berkeley, CA 94709 USA
> +1-510-883-9490 ext. 103
> mwilson@no.address <mailto:mwilson@no.address>
>
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> From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On
> Behalf Of mgminstrell@no.address
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:52 PM
> To: GreenYes@no.address
> Subject: [GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn
> close to ZW!
>
> One "byproduct" is energy... what is another? Ash maybe? What can
> be done with this wonderful "byproduct"? How will it be used/disposed
> of? (Not how -can- it, but how -will- it? Show me examples of who
> has used it...) Won't it be awefully toxic. Representatives of a
> similar company trying to build on in a community many years ago
> couldn't answer these questions for me then...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Chalfan <lchalfan@no.address>
> To: 'Greenyes List' <GreenYes@no.address>
> Sent: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:16:59 -0700
> Subject: [GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn
> close to ZW!
>
> I hope so too.
>
> On top of that, doesnât this mean that they will need a lot of waste
> for a long time?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Anne Peters <annep@no.address>
> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:05:35 -0600
> Cc: 'Greenyes List' <GreenYes@no.address>
> Subject: [GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn
> close to ZW!
>
> I just really hope St. Lucie County has thoroughly checked out this
> company's credibility; the payback period; assumptions behind the pro
> forma; financing sources; etc. There is a long history in the waste
> field of con artists selling the latest "black box" super-duper
> technology ("we'll turn your garbage in to gold")- especially outside
> of big cities - and getting the financing and then vanishing in the
> night...
>
> Eric Lombardi wrote:
>
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> ST. LUCIE COUNTY FLORIDA WILL EMPLOY PLASMA ARC GASIFICATION TO
> DEAL WITH WASTE
>
> St. Lucie County Commissioners recently authorized a
> plan to contract with Atlanta based Geoplasma LLC to build a
> plasma arc gasification plant that is expected to gasify at
> least 3,000 tons of waste per day. Plasma arcs produce a type of
> artificial lightning that heats anything in its path upwards of
> 7,000 degrees C. A byproduct of the process is combustible gas
> which, in this case, will be used to generate enough electricity
> to power 37,000 to 48,000 homes. The plant will cost $400
> million and take two years to build.
>
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>
> Eric Lombardi
>
> Executive Director/CEO
>
> Eco-Cycle Inc
>
> Boulder, CO. USA
>
> 303-444-6634
>
> www.ecocycle.org <http://www.ecocycle.org>
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