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RE: [greenyes] working together


Although I am happy to support conservative spending habits and personal financing (will refrain from addressing finances beyond this scope), I think it is vastly more important to grasp onto a subtle paradigm shift. Instead of being a conservationist, I aim prefer to strive for sustainability.

I recognize the revolutionary nature of the imperialists that brought the conservation movement to the forefront a century and more ago - a tectonic shift from the manifest destiny perpetrated upon this continent previously with little forethought. I pay homage to the American Indians (I intentionally choose the term American Indians as a tribute to the the American Indian Movement - an arm of the civil rights movement that is so rarely spoken about or referenced) that previously chose a sustainable development lifestyle. It is their way of thinking that must be re-embraced by all of us that are working toward a future the the children of our children's kids. Neither is it appropriate for us to waste fossil fuels at the exorbitant rate our society has for the last century+, nor can we afford to simply be "conservationists" any longer. Wake up, have you not followed the climate change discussions on this listserve.

I encourage all of us on this listserve to embrace a higher power that encourages love and thoughtfulness for others - if this is to be found in the "religion" that you already practice then please start living it. The collective failure of our ruling society (societies for those beyond our borders or cultures) to embrace sustainability and the search for Zero Waste is unacceptable. The fact that our nation's leaders have failed to grasp these real issues (with the need for truly renewable energy) is unfathomably ignorant and suggests the true failure of our elected officials is their inability to concentrate on the truly necessary.

So how 'bout we all get along and start preaching alternative sermons to the public - maybe we could all start with a variation entitled, "If you're not for Zero Waste, how much waste are you for?" - so how 'bout it people?

Timothy J.W. Logan
(Written solely from my personal perspective and not meant to represent the views of any of the numerous organizations and affiliations any of you may know me from.)

P.S. Go Vote! - if you haven't already done so.

Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:38:40 -0800
To: <dan@no.address>,
"GreenYes" <greenyes@no.address>
From: "Heidi Feldman" <hfeldman@no.address>
Subject: RE: [greenyes] working together

It's true that we should all be "conservatives," i.e. conserve the
resources of our precious planet. I vote for that anytime! However, the
true difference in opinion that seems to prevent all of us from working
together stems from a refusal to acknowledge the limit of available
resources, the scope of environmental problems, and the need to take
action soon. This is done to prevent any slowdown of economic growth
which is the holy grail of too many.
Overcoming these obstacles to a joint effort would be my goal for this
listserv discussion.=20
In the spirit of true democracy,=20

Heidi Feldman
Public Education Coordinator
Monterey Regional Waste Management District
Tel.: 831/384-5313 FAX: 831/384-3567

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