RE: [greenyes] Biosolids Injection Wells

[Nicky Scott <NScott@no.address>]

Hi
over here on the other side of the pond landspreading of biosolids is being
phased out - or has been already except for certain ones - I'm not
completely up on it - however - as a composter and organic dude I believe in
having complete cycles and of course we should be returning all organic
matter back to the soil rather than mining the soil of nutrient and
replacing with chemicals - it is the most basic - fundamental recycling and
why I do what I do! Injecting biosolids down wells for chrissakes!!  what is
the world coming to?  What we need is 'cleanstreaming' of all our resource
streams - and as I constantly say here we should start with the organic
fractions and clean up our sewage - not use it as a toxic dump for all kinds
of real crap -scuse my language.  We have projects here now just composting
sewage sludge with straw, or woodchip etc to aerate the piles and it works
just fine - you have to watch the heavy metals which is why you need clean
streaming.  Landspreading can also cause phytotoxic effects on plants (it
can kill them) it floods out the microbial action and is a definite no no -
or is that no brainer that you say now - 

Nicky Scott
chair Community Composting Network UK


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Eric Lombardi [SMTP:eric@no.address]
> Sent:	17 February 2004 19:27
> To:	'Art Krenzel'; greenyes@no.address
> Subject:	RE: [greenyes] Biosolids Injection Wells
> 
> Art,
> 
> You say that " Land application of biosolids works well when done using
> appropriate agronomic rates for ALL the components in the Biosolids."
> 
> My local sludge utility is thinking of switching from land application
> to some sort of composting system.  It is going to be a lot more
> expensive ... should they do this switch for environmental reasons, or
> is land application considered an acceptable "green" activity?
> 
> Anyone else have an opinion?
> 
> Eric
> 
> Eric Lombardi
> Executive Director
> Eco-Cycle, Inc
> Boulder, CO
> 303-444-6634
> www.ecocycle.org
> "Recycling may not save the world, but  the recycling spirit might."
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art Krenzel [mailto:phoenix98604@no.address] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:09 AM
> To: greenyes@no.address
> Subject: Re: [greenyes] Biosolids Injection Wells
> 
> Keith,
> 
> Have you considered the effects of disposing of human pathogen laden
> materials into pristine, pathogen free soil formations?  Not to mention
> the
> physical difficulty of pumping bioSOLIDS into tight oil formations.
> Let's
> not unknowingly create a longer term problem by myopically seeking a
> solution for a near term problem ala MTBE.
> 
> Land application of biosolids works well when done using appropriate
> agronomic rates for ALL the components in the Biosolids.
> 
> Art Krenzel, P.E.
> PHOENIX TECHNOLOGIES
> 10505 NE 285TH Street
> Battle Ground, WA 98604
> 360-666-1883 voice
> phoenix98604@no.address
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "keith mcdonald" <weedeat@no.address>
> To: <greenyes@no.address>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:23 AM
> Subject: [greenyes] Biosolids Injection Wells
> 
> 
> > I have read a lot on using old oil wells  for  injection of biosolids
> deep
> > underground is the really a good method of disposing of biosolids or
> is
> land
> > applying biosoilds a better way of recycling the material. Thanks
> Keith
> > McDonald
> >
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