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[GreenYes] Re: plastic magazines

Title: Re: [GreenYes] plastic magazines

I don’t see that it matters whether this magazine is theoretically recyclable. Practically speaking, if it were to be placed in a recycling bin it would most likely be sorted with other paper magazines and end up as a contaminant in the paper recycling process. The probability that this would actually end up at a PP processing facility if were to be sent to a MRF is so slim it is not even worth thinking about.


I sent Clear Magazine an email asking for information about what research they had done about the recyclability of this product but did not receive a response. This is the second edition they have printed on plastic, and apparently it is quite expensive and problematic. The plus seems to be that you can read it in the bath.


You can read their promo at


Ann Dorfman
Recycling & Resource Management Consulting
9 Henshaw Street, Newton, MA   02465
V: 617-244-9321
F: 617-446-1431




From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf Of Thomas Shelley
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:31 PM
To: greenyes@no.address
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: plastic magazines


Dear Amy and Colleagues--The PP "paper" substitute wouldn't be recycled in our county either (Tompkins Co., Upstate NY).   All our solid waste folks are taking now that is PP are yoghurt, butter and similar tubs (no lids).   There are many manufacturers who claim that their product is recyclable, but there are seemingly very few recyclers able to handle most of these products.  In an ideal world, yes, maybe, but not with today's economy in a rural county in Upstate NY. 


The idea of recyclable paper substitutes is not new.  McDonough and Braungart are were big proponents of this concept in their 2002 book, Cradle to Cradle.  The problem is that PP is made of oil and uses substantial fossil fuel inputs in its manufacture.  Making virgin paper is an equal disaster environmentally, but I suppose recycled paper is the best way to go.  It seems to me that lots of paper still gets landfilled that could be books and what ever in a world with little or no waste and many more standing trees.  Tom


On 12-2-08 Amy Perlmutter wrote:

I'm not sure how many programs in the country have PP recycling.  Also, does anyone know if this is like HDPE, where the specific gravity is different based on the molding process (ie, blow vs. injection molded)?  If so, that could make it incompatible with other PP, like yoghurt cups, unless perhaps it was going as mixed plastic for plastic lumber.




Tom Shelley
118 E. Court St.
Ithaca, NY 14850
607 342-0864

Compost Educator and General Substantiality Scion


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