| Title: [GreenYes] single stream recycling and the new economy 
 With the greatest respect for Eric and Helen and all our recycling friends,
 Many producer responsibility advocates are recyclers so they may be busy
 trying to keep their recycling programs going in this dire economy.  I know
 we are so it took us a bit to respond to this dialogue. We'd appreciate all
 your best thoughts for the future of recycling not just for us but for all
 the recyclers like us who are struggling right now.
 
 We have both served on NRC's board and don't know much about it now. We do
 know that NRC's  board is loaded with single stream recyclers who continue
 to say that single stream is less expensive and this is a good time to go
 that way.   We also know that every city in Minnesota that has gone to
 single stream has experienced higher rates. It is complete bogus. If it is
 cheaper then there is no savings passed on.
 
 Luckily we didn't go single stream and we can still move our materials in
 this market.  We have gotten calls from other recyclers like ourselves in
 our area but that they have gone to single stream and are asking for our
 help as they are unable to even move the materials - let alone get paid. So
 is this proof that the feedback loop from the mill is working?  No.
 
 This is the proof that what is theoretically possible and what is actually
 happening in single stream are eons apart. The largest recycler in the
 country is single stream and they have sway to land contracts with mills
 that include floor pricing. Their "quality" of materials sets the national
 price we all get for our recyclables. They continue to move their single
 stream materials. This is the real world of single stream recycling. The
 feedback loop only works with the small recyclers who are trying to compete
 with the giants by going to single stream - they get the feedback for poor
 quality at the mills. That was fine when the demand was high but not so much
 now as they are currently shut off.
 
 We aren't experts here - we have been recycling for a couple decades and we
 talk with our mills. Ironically the mills in our country are older and can't
 handle the dirtier paper so how do we support local mills - how do we keep
 paper and other raw materials in our country?  For now we keep it super
 clean - not single stream. All of our material stays in North America. Our
 residual rate at our MRF is less than 1% and that includes glass bottle
 recycling into glass bottles not sand blasting medium or landfill cover. We
 educate our customers - our drivers leave what isn't recycled in the bin.
 They can see because it isn't in a big closed cart and our two stream
 materials are handled with respect in our trucks and at our facility. Not
 compacted to smithereens to "save money." Maybe this sounds arrogant but the
 idea at Eureka Recycling was to demonstrate that it could be done...waste
 could be prevented - environmentally sound, socially compassionate and
 economically solid.
 
 Ideally..... our community deals with discards by buying less and in bulk or
 refillables. Then we purchase what is really recyclable not just swept off
 the curb and discarded later. We compost their food scraps at home as much
 as possible and then only what must be is actually driven off to a
 commercial composting facility. We use the compost we create in their garden
 or give it to our neighbor. The commercial compost goes to local farms.  We
 buy products from producers that understand their responsibility for their
 manufactured goods. We support restaurants and businesses that do the same.
 We stop justifying short term fixes like dirty single stream and demand
 change - real change and we know that our vote - I meanour individual action
 actually does count.
 
 National minimum content standards are important so are partnerships. We are
 always looking for good partners.
 
 
 Susan Hubbard & Tim Brownell
 Eureka Recycling
 2828 Kennedy ST. NE
 Minneapolis, MN 55413
 
 651.222.7678
 
 Waste is Preventable Not Inevitable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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