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[GreenYes] Re: [CRRA] Zero Waste plans


Open letter to recycling policy wonks:

Would someone please tell those of us that don't know what MBT is?  Sounds like a gasoline additive, or something taken from a medicine bottle label.  You guys are in such a hurry, and you lose people like me when you use an alphabet soup of abbreviations in place of any attempt to actually communicate your message.

Also, Rick's observations make MBT sound like a real Godawful bad thing.  Again, why would recyclers want to endorse the waster's technologies that result in severely degraded and even dangerous products?  Why is our industry the only one being asked to abandon quality production, and why are so many of our best spokespeople so willing to go along.  Is it just to get along?  The public out there wants clean resources, clean recycling, clean composting, and they depend on us for accurate information on what's happening in our field.  Whenever we buy into crud resources we damage all the operators earnestly trying to produce good stuff.  We also damage our own credibility.

Dan Knapp


On Jan 30, 2008, at 6:06 PM, RicAnthony@no.address wrote:

In a message dated 1/29/2008 12:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, hspie@no.addressnet writes:From what you say, the environmental case for MBT rests on 100% stabilization ("no methane").
 
Hi Folks
I have been reading this since it started with LA post and  have to say that the MBT plant we saw in Germany, that was recommended as the best of its kind,  takes the material not source separated and soaks it in water for a few days (the tea bag effect) and then derives energy from the organics in the liquid, organic solid material is digested and then burned in a paper mill.  I asked the biologist who gave us the tour whether he thought the result was toxic and he thought yes. 
 
I recommend better front end (required) reuse, recycling and composting programs. All compostable organics separated out by law up font. These programs could reduce non marketable material to less than 20%.  This might be treated wood, baby diapers and mistakes.
 
Rick




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