[GreenYes] Re: 3 new messages in 3 topics - digest

[Neil Seldman <nseldman@no.address>]

HI All,

I have been sent a plan for Catalina Island, CA which looks very  
comprehensive in its attempt to create a sustainable energy system.  
Yet they are relying on a wte (pyrolysis) system for waste. I believe  
they will feed rdf from a dirty mrf into a dedicated unit.
They plan to use the IES technology which is being built in  
Riverside, CA.

If anyone has detailed cost information and/or a copy of the actual  
solid waste management plan, I would appreciate a chance to review.

Thanks for your help.

Neil Seldman
ILSR
Washington, DC

On Apr 1, 2007, at 4:02 AM, GreenYes group wrote:

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> Today's topics:
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> * Recyclable Plastic Cups - 1 messages, 1 author
>  http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/ 
> f7ee8b25b500d7ac?hl=en
> * Bottle Bills Elsewhere - 1 messages, 1 author
>  http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/ 
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> * Compact fluorescent bulb deposits - 1 messages, 1 author
>  http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/ 
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> TOPIC: Recyclable Plastic Cups
> http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/ 
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> == 1 of 1 ==
> Date: Sat, Mar 31 2007 7:02 am
> From: "Nancy Poh"
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> I am surprised to hear that because we have supply of Bio-degradable
> containers that are convertible into natural fertilizers. Is that not
> better than recyclable since there will be no energy wasted to recycle
> it?
>
> Rgds
> GreenBeing Nancy
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> <-----Original Message----->
>> From: lstoerkel@no.address [lstoerkel@no.address]
>> Sent: 3/27/2007 11:53:39 PM
>> To: GreenYes@no.address
>> Subject: Re: [GreenYes] Re: Recyclable Plastic Cups
>>
>> Dear Craig,
>>
>> Here is California we have AB2176 which requires events of a certain
>> size to create a recycling plan. Not a perfect solution, but it has
>> generated alot of talk and resources dedicated to solving the  
>> problems
>> of special events waste management.
>>
>> Stephen's right, there aren't any recyclable cups, so re-usables or
>> compostables are the way to go.
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>> Best of Luck!!
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> TOPIC: Bottle Bills Elsewhere
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> == 1 of 1 ==
> Date: Sat, Mar 31 2007 8:36 am
> From: arthur boone
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>
> In December, probably 2002, I attended a meeting in Bethesda,  
> Maryland that Pat Franklin convened on new bottle bill initiatives.  
> At that point California had recently expanded its bottle bill to  
> cover non-carbonated juices and water. I realized that in all the  
> other states, the bottles still went back through the grocery  
> stores and the grocers still hated it. (We have this peculiar  
> convenience zone system with originally one cent per container  
> redemption (but now up to five cents, effective July 1, 2007). All  
> California bottle bill changes have gone through the legislature  
> without opposition from the grocers because they are not at the  
> table; it doesn't concern them. Not what we had thought about in  
> 1986 when agreeing to our peculiar form but maybe one that works  
> (in some fashion) in the long run. Arthur R. Boone, Oakland, CA
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> TOPIC: Compact fluorescent bulb deposits
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> == 1 of 1 ==
> Date: Sat, Mar 31 2007 8:42 pm
> From: "retroworks"
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>
> M.Simon states "...If the primary market for this is alleuvial gold
> mining, and that mining process itself is not a problem.."
>
> Well, the process of alleuvial gold mining, where the surplus mercury
> is sold, is a huge problem.  The mercury is used to float gold out of
> silt, then burned off over a flame.
>
> The supply of Hg (from biproduct of copper and gold mining, and from
> recycling) has far outstripped the legitimate demand, and the extra
> mercury people are "recycling" is getting sold overseas for this
> horrendous use.  If we subsidize the supply of something - which
> recycling programs are effectively doing for mercury - and don't ban
> the export, we are paying recycling dollars to send mercury to the
> Amazon.  Anyway, that's my thesis, I'd love to be proven wrong, but
> the lack of response is disturbing.
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