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Helen, Whew, this could be a long conversation... but you are right. We need to deconstruct the arguments of our opponents so that we can understand and possibly partner on sub-issues. Building the trust is a process as necessary as oxygen to this process. My little effort over the years has been to use Eco-Cycle Inc. (a nonprofit) as a marketplace experiment where we make money in the capitalist manner, voluntarily cap our profits at around 10%, and pour our energy/growth/cash into a social mission. I call it the ten percent solution, and I am very open with the local governments and local businesses I serve that the 10% Solution is good for everyone. So far, after 15 years, I have never had a government or business client tell me that a 10% profit was excessive, and then they pay it and thank us for doing our social mission. This approach is now called "social enterprise" in the nonprofit world and it has become a mega-trend over the last 5 years. I'd like to see it continue to rise as a "new option" to the old anything-goes kind of capitalism. Eric Lombardi Executive Director/CEO Eco-Cycle Inc Boulder, CO. USA 303-444-6634 www.ecocycle.org -----Original Message----- From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf Of Helen Spiegelman Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:54 PM To: Greenyes List Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Healthy Business Strategies report from Clean Production Action Peace activists from all over the world are gathered in my fair city (Vancouver, Canada) this week for the World Peace Forum. They are talking in hundreds of intense, well-attended sessions about how to get past war and conflict. One of the sessions I attended was an exercise in "deep dialogue." The premise of deep dialogue is that we are going to have to get people with what seem like fundamentally opposed views working through the issues in order to achieve workable solutions (think "restorative justice" which is a deep dialogue between victims and perpetrators of crimes). I came away persuaded that this can be done by de-constructing opposing positions. In the present instance: what is it, specifically, within the "Capitalist modus operandi" that does not work for us? What elements can we break out and negotiate on, rather than trashing the Capitalist modus operandi in its entirety? This is what Product Policy Institute is wrestling with when we talk about "good governance". Commerce is a part of the human experience. How can we tame commerce so it serves humans and the environment? Can we really imagine a world without any commerce whatsoever? (Will the first person who never bought anything please raise your hand?) Helen. At 01:12 PM 6/27/2006, Mike Morin wrote: >Is this progress or is it greenwash (i.e. public relations)? > >While McDonough's work is admirable and desirable, I sincerely believe that >we can not build an equitable and sustainable culture (i.e. economy) by >trying to green the Capitalist modus operandi. > > >MM > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Monica Wilson" <mwilson@no.address> >To: "Greenyes List" <GreenYes@no.address> >Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:06 PM >Subject: [GreenYes] Healthy Business Strategies report from Clean Production >Action > > > > > > A new report detailing how companies can and are moving from toxic > > chemistry > > to green chemistry is available at http://www.cleanproduction.org See > > especially the recommendations to business starting on page 47. This looks > > like a very useful tool if you're working with businesses to reduce and > > detoxify both onsite wastes and products (potential wastes-to-be). > > > > The report profiles innovations at: > > Kaiser Permanente (health care) > > Interface (fabrics and carpets) > > H&M (clothing) > > Herman Miller (furniture) > > Avalon (cosmetics) > > Dell (electronics) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GreenYes" group. To post to this group, send email to GreenYes@no.address To unsubscribe from this group, send email to GreenYes-unsubscribe@no.address For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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