[GreenYes] Re: Healthy Business Strategies report from Clean Production Action

[David Jaber <djaber@no.address>]

Well said, Helen.

Thought leaders have been working on this subject for years.  One I'd 
recommend is
David Korten's "The Post-Corporate World" for those that haven't read 
it.

Let's recognize and fix the problems of capitalism, and green companies 
along the way.

On Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006, at 13:54 US/Pacific, Helen Spiegelman wrote:

>
> Peace activists from all over the world are gathered in my fair city
> (Vancouver, Canada) this week for the World Peace Forum. They are 
> talking
> in hundreds of intense, well-attended sessions about how to get past 
> war
> and conflict. One of the sessions I attended was an exercise in "deep
> dialogue." The premise of deep dialogue is that we are going to have 
> to get
> people with what seem like fundamentally opposed views working through 
> the
> issues in order to achieve workable solutions (think "restorative 
> justice"
> which is a deep dialogue between victims and perpetrators of crimes).
>
> I came away persuaded that this can be done by de-constructing opposing
> positions. In the present instance: what is it, specifically, within 
> the
> "Capitalist modus operandi" that does not work for us? What elements 
> can we
> break out and negotiate on, rather than trashing the Capitalist modus
> operandi in its entirety?
>
> This is what Product Policy Institute is wrestling with when we talk 
> about
> "good governance". Commerce is a part of the human experience. How can 
> we
> tame commerce so it serves humans and the environment? Can we really
> imagine a world without any commerce whatsoever? (Will the first 
> person who
> never bought anything please raise your hand?)
>
> Helen.
>
> At 01:12 PM 6/27/2006, Mike Morin wrote:
>
>> Is this progress or is it greenwash (i.e. public relations)?
>>
>> While McDonough's work is admirable and desirable, I sincerely 
>> believe that
>> we can not build an equitable and sustainable culture (i.e. economy) 
>> by
>> trying to green the Capitalist modus operandi.
>>
>>
>> MM


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