[GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I think we could get darn close to ZW!

[Alan Muller <amuller@no.address>]

At 12:22 PM 6/29/2006 -0500, Reindl, John wrote:
>I would hope that Zero Waste would also include 
>a feature of minimizing the environmental 
>impacts of the use/management of materials, or, 
>at least reducing them to the point of 
>sustainability (whatever that point may be). 
>100% (and even less than 100$) recovery can 
>result in increasing these impacts and do more damage than good.
>
>John

John:

Could you expand a bit on what you are getting at 
here?  Obviously there are impacts associated 
with recovery and reuse of materials.  But we 
usually claim those impacts are less that the 
impacts of extracting and processing the virgin 
stuff we hope we are offsetting the use of.  Are 
you saying this isn't always the case?

Alan

>-----Original Message-----
>From: GreenYes@no.address 
>[mailto:GreenYes@no.address]On Behalf Of Eric Lombardi
>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:05 PM
>To: 'Eric Lombardi'; 'Greenyes List'
>Subject: [GreenYes] Re: with $400 million, I 
>think we could get darn close to ZW!
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>Sorry folks, I fell (again!) into the language 
>trap of equating ZW with 100% Recovery.   I am 
>really trying to talk about Zero Waste as 
>something much bigger than the end-of-the-pipe 
>world Iâ??ve lived in for so long.  Of course, 
>maximum recovery is a cornerstone of a ZW 
>Community, but it is only one piece.   In our 
>opinion here at Eco-Cycle, there are three other 
>â??KEYâ?? focus areas that need to grow in 
>importance, and in our collective knowledgebase 
>on the GreenYes list:  (1) â??New Rulesâ?? by 
>government to go upstream and prevent waste 
>before it is created; (2) Producer 
>Responsibility ? legal, financial and pphysical 
>connection between producers and their 
>End-Of-Life (EOL) responsibilities; and (3) The 
>Power of Zero Waste Purchasing ? are we buying the future we want??
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>(sorry for this personal conversation with myself in a public space?)
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>Eric Lombardi
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>Executive Director/CEO
>
>Eco-Cycle Inc
>
>Boulder, CO. USA
>
>303-444-6634
>
>www.ecocycle.org
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: GreenYes@no.address 
>[mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf Of Eric Lombardi
>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:43 AM
>To: 'Greenyes List'
>Subject: [GreenYes] with $400 million, I think we could get darn close to ZW!
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>ST. LUCIE COUNTY FLORIDA WILL EMPLOY PLASMA ARC 
>GASIFICATION TO DEAL WITH WASTE
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>St. Lucie County Commissioners recently 
>authorized a plan to contract with Atlanta based 
>Geoplasma LLC to build a plasma arc gasification 
>plant that is expected to gasify at least 3,000 
>tons of waste per day. Plasma arcs produce a 
>type of artificial lightning that heats anything 
>in its path upwards of 7,000 degrees C. A 
>byproduct of the process is combustible gas 
>which, in this case, will be used to generate 
>enough electricity to power 37,000 to 48,000 
>homes. The plant will cost $400 million and take two years to build.
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>Eric Lombardi
>
>Executive Director/CEO
>
>Eco-Cycle Inc
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>Boulder, CO. USA
>
>303-444-6634
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>www.ecocycle.org
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Alan Muller, Executive Director
Green Delaware
Box 69
Port Penn, DE 19731 USA
(302)834-3466
fax (302)836-3005
greendel@no.address
www.greendel.org 

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