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[GreenYes] Re: 6 new messages in 3 topics - digest


Here's a possible source of the parenthetic missing revenues. These could amount to many extra billions as haulers deliver wastes to their own facilities, don't you think?

* Revenues: The solid waste industry generated an estimated total revenue, net of intra-industry payments, of $43.3 billion.
(from: http://wastec.isproductions.net/webmodules/webarticles/anmviewer.asp?a=482)

At 08:36 AM 12/28/2005, Eric Lombardi wrote:

The last number I saw was the $44 Billion that Neil is referring to. I
believe it was generated by the Environmental Research Foundation, or
something like that... is connected to the waste industry. Also, I think
the Chartwell publications house has good sources for this.

Eric


Eric Lombardi
Executive Director
Eco-Cycle Inc
303-444-6634
www.ecocycle.org

"Anything that changes your values, changes your behavior"
George Sheehan.


-----Original Message-----
From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf
Of Neil Seldman
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:39 AM
To: GreenYes group
Cc: GreenYes digest subscribers
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: 6 new messages in 3 topics - digest


I believe the official number from industry is $44 billion including C
and D. I think this is low. I would like to look at the official
methodology used but never have gotten around to it. Perhaps this can
be a student thesis. My estimate is $70 Billion. I think there are a
lot of informal economic exchanges in this sector. I think C and D and
commercial costs are under reported. My estimate comes from talking to
selected industry members. Not random and not scientific. Let's call
them impressions.

These estimates are gross income. With regard to profits--- Large
companies tend to have 30% profit goals; smaller companies 10-15%.

Neil Seldman
Institute for Local Self-Reliance
Washington, DC


On Dec 28, 2005, at 7:27 AM, GreenYes group wrote:

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> Today's topics:
>
> * NM Conference - Call for Abstracts - 1 messages, 1 author
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/
> 3c48702924834ebf
> * Value of garbage contracts in the US - 3 messages, 3 authors
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/
> d50bb39c456582af
> * Requirements for onsite garbage/recycling storage space at busine
> sses - 2
> messages, 2 authors
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/
> 8313cc29addc5ea3
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> =======================================================================
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> TOPIC: NM Conference - Call for Abstracts
> http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/
> 3c48702924834ebf
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>
> == 1 of 1 ==
> Date: Tues, Dec 27 2005 10:48 am
> From: "Brewer, Gretchen, NMENV"
>
> Managing Waste in the Wide Open Spaces
>
> Loads of Opportunity
>
>
> Rural Recycling Transfer Disposal Diversion
> Arid Climate
>
>
> A Joint Conference hosted by New Mexico Recycling Coalition and The New
> Mexico Roadrunner Chapter of the Solid Waste Association of North
> America
>
>
> CALL FOR ABSTRACTS
>
>
> On June 12-15, 2006, a regional joint conference hosted by the New
> Mexico Recycling Coalition and the Roadrunner Chapter of the Solid
> Waste
> Association of North America will be held in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
> This will be the most comprehensive, informative and economical
> conference of recycling and waste management issues in the rural and
> arid West.
>
> Keynote speakers, lectures, panel discussions, and roundtables in the
> categories listed below will be selected. To initiate your
> participation as a speaker, experts from industry, academia,
> government,
> recyclers and consultants are invited to submit papers describing
> research, applications, tools and case studies. Approximately 30
> minutes are provided for each presentation, including questions and
> responses.
>
> We are especially interested in the following TOPICS (with suggested
> subtopics):
>
> Managing the Open Spaces: Tools to Improve Operational Efficiencies
>
> * Curbside versus drop-off centers
> * Economics of various collection / transfer / recycling equipment
>
> * Automated collection
> * Combining collection / transfer / marketing among communities
> * Safety issues
> * Training issues
> * Commercial recycling audits
> * Geographical challenges
> * Tribal operations
> * College and University recycling
> * Institutional, lab and corporate recycling
>
> Profitable Scrap-Finding the Money in Recycling
>
> * How to
> * Reuse / buy recycled / recycled products
> * Green retailers
> * Hard to recycle items and programs
> * E-waste recovery
> * NAFTA issues / Border issues
> * Green building
>
>
> Expansive Possibilities in Processing
>
>
> * Material recovery facilities
>
> * C & D recycling
> * Organics diversion / grinding / composting
> * Disposal
> * Tire processing
>
> Pushing Their Buttons: Decision-makers' guide to Advocacy
>
> * Legislative trends / initiatives
> * Environmental justice issues
> * Bottle bill pros / cons
> * Education and outreach
> * How to present to elected officials
> * Waste sheds
> * New Mexico Recycling Awareness Month
>
> When completing the application, please keep these points in mind:
>
> 1. How is your subject contemporary and relevant?
> Explain what is new or unique about the information presented.
>
> 2. What specific benefits or advantages will attendees
> gain from this topic? Be specific about the tools and techniques you
> provide for attendees.
>
> 3. What will the participants be able to do as a
> result
> of attending this session?
>
> 4. Provide examples of how the points presented can be
> transferred to other organizations.
>
> On your Abstract Submittal please include:
>
> Contact Name:
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> Company:
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> Address:
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> City, State, Zip:
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> Web Site:
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> Title:
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> AV Needs:
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> 2-3 Paragraph Description Of Your Talk
>
> Submit your Abstract:
>
> Mail to NMRC, PO Box 24364, Santa Fe, NM 87502
>
> FAX to 505-466-6266
>
> Call for Info: 505-983-4470
>
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> SUBMISSIONS DUE BY MONDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2006
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> Presenters will receive free Conference admission for one day. For more
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> TOPIC: Value of garbage contracts in the US
> http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/
> d50bb39c456582af
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>
> == 1 of 3 ==
> Date: Tues, Dec 27 2005 2:17 pm
> From: Ann Schneider
>
> This reporter is looking for a figure on how many billions of dollars
> the
> garbage industry makes. I think it might help her if the figures are
> broken down by state and by garbage/recycling.
>
> If you have this information or can point her to some websites, please
> send the response to her email address.
>
> She is on deadline for an issue going to press the end of this week
> (Dec.
> 30)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ann Schneider
> Sierra Club, Loma Prieta Zero Waste Committee
> Mtn. View, CA
>
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Vrinda Normand" <vrinda@no.address>
> To: schneiderann@no.address
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:29:20 -0800
> Subject: garbage money
> Message-ID: <fc.000f4bd400ed46ea000f4bd400ed46ea.ed46eb@no.address>
>
> Hi Ann,
>
> How many billions of dollars a year does the garbage industry make? Do
> you know where I can find this figure?
>
> Thanks,
> Vrinda Normand
> Silicon Valley Metro Newspaper
> 408-200-1349
>
>
>
> == 2 of 3 ==
> Date: Tues, Dec 27 2005 4:04 pm
> From: Anne Peters
>
> Try the editors at Waste Age magazine - www.wasteage.com I have a copy
> at hand -- I see the editorial director is BillWolpin,
> bwolpin@no.address, 770-618-0112 or Editor Stephen Ursery,
> sursery@no.address 770-618-0201.
>
> I haven't seen that number for a while. Let us know what you find out,
> Vrinda.
> Anne Peters
> Gracestone, Inc.
> Boulder, CO
> 303.494.4934 vox
> 303.494.4880 fax
>
> Ann Schneider wrote:
>
>> This reporter is looking for a figure on how many billions of dollars
>> the
>> garbage industry makes. I think it might help her if the figures are
>> broken down by state and by garbage/recycling.
>>
>> If you have this information or can point her to some websites, please
>> send the response to her email address.
>>
>> She is on deadline for an issue going to press the end of this week
>> (Dec.
>> 30)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ann Schneider
>> Sierra Club, Loma Prieta Zero Waste Committee
>> Mtn. View, CA
>>
>>
>> --------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Vrinda Normand" <vrinda@no.address>
>> To: schneiderann@no.address
>> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:29:20 -0800
>> Subject: garbage money
>> Message-ID: <fc.000f4bd400ed46ea000f4bd400ed46ea.ed46eb@no.address>
>>
>> Hi Ann,
>>
>> How many billions of dollars a year does the garbage industry make? Do
>> you know where I can find this figure?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vrinda Normand
>> Silicon Valley Metro Newspaper
>> 408-200-1349
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> == 3 of 3 ==
> Date: Tues, Dec 27 2005 3:38 pm
> From: David Biddle
>
>
>
>
>
> =======================================================================
> =======
> TOPIC: Requirements for onsite garbage/recycling storage space at
> busine sses
> http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/
> 8313cc29addc5ea3
> =======================================================================
> =======
>
> == 1 of 2 ==
> Date: Tues, Dec 27 2005 3:03 pm
> From: "McLaughlin, Anne"
>
> Dear GreenYes-ers,
>
> Happy holidays from the rainy City of Roses. We're looking for some
> advice
> from the rest of you (and from anyone else you may refer us to).
>
> The City of Portland is looking at ways to prohibit, or at least
> reduce the
> number of, Dumpsters and other garbage & recycling (G/R) containers
> permanently sitting on public sidewalks (i.e., public right-of-way).
> Our
> current regulations aren't working very well.
>
> We are asking you for information and/or contacts for other cities to
> see
> what good solutions you might have found. We are thinking that it's
> probably done through your planning and zoning regulations, by
> requiring
> property owners to provide G/R storage space on their own properties,
> and
> including specs for that storage space. But if you have any other
> workable
> system, we'd like to know that. We're interested in what the
> regulations
> are, and how and by what agency they are enforced.
>
> Even for new buildings, Portland's codes do not require that
> developers set
> aside any indoor, or even outdoor, space for onsite storage of G/R
> containers. *If* onsite storage is included, it must meet safety
> requirements. And the planning and zoning code requires that if such
> storage is outdoors, it must be screened and landscaped. However, the
> screening/landscaping requirements are often not actually observed.
>
> In older buildings, the problem of G/R containers being stored on
> sidewalks
> also arises in several circumstances. One is older buildings where
> there
> may never have been much/any onsite storage space for G/R containers,
> either
> indoor or outdoor. These include apartment buildings as well as other
> businesses.
>
> Other circumstances are older buildings which are remodeled into new
> uses
> but without taking adequate steps to accommodate onsite
> garbage/recycling
> storage space. In some cases the remodeling may even reduce or
> eliminate
> the onsite G/R storage area, "forcing" the business to place their G/R
> containers on the sidewalk. Sometimes, a business and its hauler
> agree to
> consolidate the business' waste into a large sidewalk Dumpster,
> replacing
> several smaller garbage carts which had been stored in indoor spaces
> and
> rolled outdoors on pickup days. This can be an attractive option to
> both
> hauler and customer because it's less work for both and pickup
> frequency may
> be decreased, so the customer's cost is less.
>
> [Note: Portland's regulatory system for commercial hauling is based on
> private haulers in a competitive free market, with about 50 haulers
> competing for over 15,000 customers. Haulers often bend over
> backwards to
> seek or retain customers, and many have difficulty coping with
> requirements
> that they feel may put them at a competitive disadvantage. For more
> background on the regulatory system, see
> http://www.sustainableportland.org/sw_com_history.pdf]
>
> So how can we make progress toward having G/R containers stored
> indoors, or
> at least onsite with screening and landscaping? Any leads you can
> provide
> will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for whatever you can offer. Anne
> McL
>
> Anne McLaughlin,
> City of Portland, Office of Sustainable Development, Solid Waste &
> Recycling
> Program
>
> 721 NW 9th Ave, Rm. 350, Portland OR 97209-3447
> Phone 503-823-7061 Fax 503-823-4562
> Usual work schedule: Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays
> Visit our website at
> http://www.sustainableportland.org/default.asp?sec=recycle&pg=home
>
> [In the interest of waste reduction: if you really need to print out
> this
> message or any attachments, please print double-sided or on used
> paper. Make
> it fit on fewer pages by editing out unwanted parts first, and your
> printer
> may have an option for printing two pages per side. Thanks!]
>
>
>
>
>
> == 2 of 2 ==
> Date: Wed, Dec 28 2005 12:12 am
> From: Alan Muller
>
> At 03:03 PM 12/27/2005 -0800, McLaughlin, Anne wrote:
>
>> Dear GreenYes-ers,
>>
>> Happy holidays from the rainy City of Roses. We're looking for some
>> advice
>> from the rest of you (and from anyone else you may refer us to).
>>
>> The City of Portland is looking at ways to prohibit, or at least
>> reduce the
>> number of, Dumpsters and other garbage & recycling (G/R) containers
>> permanently sitting on public sidewalks (i.e., public right-of-way).
>> Our
>> current regulations aren't working very well.
>>
>> We are asking you for information and/or contacts for other cities to
>> see
>> what good solutions you might have found. We are thinking that it's
>> probably done through your planning and zoning regulations, by
>> requiring
>> property owners to provide G/R storage space on their own properties,
>> and
>> including specs for that storage space. But if you have any other
>> workable
>> system, we'd like to know that. We're interested in what the
>> regulations
>> are, and how and by what agency they are enforced.
>
> Why *would* containers be allowed to stand permanently on public
> sidewalks? I thought all jurisdictions had regulations on use of such
> public right-of-way.... (I'm sure that the basic pattern around here
> is
> that a permit is needed to put a dumpster at the curb--say--for a
> project
> such as a roof tearoff. The time allowed is limited. And this would
> normally be in a parking area, not a traffic lane or sidewalk.) I
> would
> think that if the political will exists to make and enforce suitable
> rules,
> the property owners will be forced to find alternatives. But maybe I
> don't
> understand.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Alan Muller, Executive Director
> Green Delaware
> Box 69
> Port Penn, DE 19731 USA
> (302)834-3466
> fax (302)836-3005
> greendel@no.address
> www.greendel.org
>
>
>
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