Thank you Steve Swaim and Dan Weisenbach.
This attack against anybody who believes in God at every available
opportunity, relevent or not, is really nauseating. And very absurd
considering that the vast majority of the Earth's population DOES
believe in God in some respect, even if their particular religions vary.
Steve Swaim wrote:
Let's please leave the liberal political views out of this list serve.
Steven W. Swaim
Davidson County, NC
Ph: (336) 242-2856
Fax: (336) 242-2172
Mobile: (336) 240-0295
"Good enough never is"
From: Steve Bloom [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: [greenyes] RE: PEER Press Release
Unfortunately, Bush and a lot of his supporters are confirmed
Millenialists who see
exploiting the Earth prior to the anticipated return of that Jewish
preacher (who as such
still wouldn't be eligible for membership in certain private social
institutions run by
members of the Bush "base") as their God-given duty. Long-term
environmental concerns are
just not a problem for these people.
I'm reminded of a joke (?) I heard a few days ago that Bush's
favorite song is "Nearer My
God to Thee." That in turn puts me in mind of a bumper sticker my
partner recently put on
her car that reads "Where are we going, and why am I in this hand
-- Steve Bloom
From: D Hughes [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:23 PM
To: DONNAWAY Jay; firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Re: [greenyes] RE: PEER Press Release
I thought that part of the National Park Services' mission is to
the public. Havingcreated
a book at the Grand Canyon gift shop claiming the Grand Canyon was
flood hardly fills this mission, although I find it more of an
embarrassment than anything
else. The choice is yours to buy it or not. What is far more
is the placement of these bronze plaques bearing Psalms verses atscenic
overlooks. This is clearly a case of the Federal governmentadvocating for
a particular religion. Can you imagine the reaction if verses fromthe
Quaran were installed? Shall we install some Buddhist shrines aswell?
Let God's handiwork speak for itself.product
At 12:16 PM 10/25/2004, DONNAWAY Jay wrote:
Since when does stocking the gift shop shelves with a particular
amount to Federal advocacy? If it does, I would expect the
environmental community to be more concerned about toxic toy
pterodactyls pumped full of plasticizers than the offering of a
book that by it's very title, professes to offer an alternative view.
What's next, oh defenders of Liberty, book burning in the name of
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:54:10 -0500
To: "GreenYes" <email@example.com>
From: "Peter Anderson" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Administration's Science Position
Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility
For Immediate Release: Wednesday, October 13, 2004
Contact: Chas Offutt (202) 265-7337
PARK SERVICE STICKS WITH BIBLICAL EXPLANATION FOR GRAND CANYON
Legal Review on Creationist Book Is Shelved
Washington, DC - The Bush Administration has decided that it will
its approval for a book claiming the Grand Canyon was created by
flood rather than by geologic forces, according to internal documents
released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility
Despite telling members of Congress and the public that the legality
appropriateness of the National Park Service offering a creationist
sale at Grand Canyon museums and bookstores was "under review at the
national level by several offices," no such review took place,
materials obtained by PEER under the Freedom of Information Act.
the real agency position was expressed by NPS spokesperson Elaine
quoted in the Baptist Press News:
"Now that the book has become quite popular, we don't want to
In August of 2003, Grand Canyon National Park Superintendent Joe
attempted to block the sale of Grand Canyon: A Different View, by Tom
a book explaining how the park's central feature developed on a
rather than an evolutionary time scale. NPS Headquarters, however,
intervened and overruled Alston. To quiet the resulting furor, NPS
Communications David Barna told reporters that there would be a
policy review, distributing talking points stating: "We hope to have
decision in February ." In fact, the promised review never
a.. In late February, Barna crafted a draft letter to concerned
Congress stating: "We hope to have a final decision on the book in
2004." That draft was rewritten in June and finally sent out to
Congressional representatives with no completion date for the review
b.. NPS Headquarters did not respond to a January 25th memo from
top geologists charging that sale of the book violated agency
undercut its scientific education programs;
c.. The Park Service ignored a letter of protest signed by the
of seven scientific societies on December 16, 2003.
"Promoting creationism in our national parks is just as wrong as
it in our public schools," stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch,
Bush Administration is using public resources for pandering to
fundamentalists, it should at least have the decency to tell the
The creationist book is not the only religious controversy at Grand
National Park. One week prior to the approved sale of Grand Canyon: A
Different View, NPS Deputy Director Donald Murphy ordered that bronze
plaques bearing Psalm verses be returned and reinstalled at canyon
overlooks. Superintendent Alston had removed the bronze plaques on
advice from Interior Department solicitors. Murphy also wrote a
apology to the plaques' sponsors, the Evangelical Sisterhood of Mary.
has collected other instances of what it calls the Bush
"Faith-Based Parks" agenda.-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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