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Re: [greenyes] RE: PEER Press Release


Thank you Steve Swaim and Dan Weisenbach.

This attack against anybody who believes in God at every available opportunity, relevent or not, is really nauseating. And very absurd considering that the vast majority of the Earth's population DOES believe in God in some respect, even if their particular religions vary.

Ken McEntee


Steve Swaim wrote:

Let's please leave the liberal political views out of this list serve.

Steven W. Swaim
Recycling Coordinator
Davidson County, NC
Ph: (336) 242-2856
Fax: (336) 242-2172
Mobile: (336) 240-0295
email: sswaim@no.address

"Good enough never is"


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Bloom [mailto:spbloom@no.address] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:44 PM
To: _greenyes
Subject: RE: [greenyes] RE: PEER Press Release

Unfortunately, Bush and a lot of his supporters are confirmed
Millenialists who see
exploiting the Earth prior to the anticipated return of that Jewish
preacher (who as such
still wouldn't be eligible for membership in certain private social
institutions run by
members of the Bush "base") as their God-given duty. Long-term
environmental concerns are
just not a problem for these people.
I'm reminded of a joke (?) I heard a few days ago that Bush's
favorite song is "Nearer My
God to Thee." That in turn puts me in mind of a bumper sticker my
partner recently put on
her car that reads "Where are we going, and why am I in this hand
basket?"
-- Steve Bloom



-----Original Message-----
From: D Hughes [mailto:djhughes@no.address]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:23 PM
To: DONNAWAY Jay; greenyes@no.address
Subject: Re: [greenyes] RE: PEER Press Release


I thought that part of the National Park Services' mission is to


educate


the public. Having
a book at the Grand Canyon gift shop claiming the Grand Canyon was


created


by Noah's
flood hardly fills this mission, although I find it more of an
embarrassment than anything
else. The choice is yours to buy it or not. What is far more


disturbing


is the placement of these bronze plaques bearing Psalms verses at


scenic


overlooks. This is clearly a case of the Federal government


advocating for


a particular religion. Can you imagine the reaction if verses from


the


Quaran were installed? Shall we install some Buddhist shrines as


well?


Let God's handiwork speak for itself.
amen.
Don Hughes


At 12:16 PM 10/25/2004, DONNAWAY Jay wrote:



Since when does stocking the gift shop shelves with a particular


product


amount to Federal advocacy? If it does, I would expect the
environmental community to be more concerned about toxic toy
pterodactyls pumped full of plasticizers than the offering of a


single


book that by it's very title, professes to offer an alternative view.
What's next, oh defenders of Liberty, book burning in the name of


green


energy?

Jay Donnaway



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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:54:10 -0500
To: "GreenYes" <greenyes@no.address>
From: "Peter Anderson" <anderson@no.address>
Subject: Administration's Science Position
Message-ID: <007101c4ba14$52a761b0$6bcfaf42@no.address>

Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility

Press Release

For Immediate Release: Wednesday, October 13, 2004
Contact: Chas Offutt (202) 265-7337

PARK SERVICE STICKS WITH BIBLICAL EXPLANATION FOR GRAND CANYON


Promised


Legal Review on Creationist Book Is Shelved

Washington, DC - The Bush Administration has decided that it will


stand


by
its approval for a book claiming the Grand Canyon was created by


Noah's


flood rather than by geologic forces, according to internal documents
released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility
(PEER).

Despite telling members of Congress and the public that the legality


and


appropriateness of the National Park Service offering a creationist


book


for
sale at Grand Canyon museums and bookstores was "under review at the
national level by several offices," no such review took place,


according


to
materials obtained by PEER under the Freedom of Information Act.
Instead,
the real agency position was expressed by NPS spokesperson Elaine


Sevy


as
quoted in the Baptist Press News:

"Now that the book has become quite popular, we don't want to


remove


it."

In August of 2003, Grand Canyon National Park Superintendent Joe


Alston


attempted to block the sale of Grand Canyon: A Different View, by Tom
Vail,
a book explaining how the park's central feature developed on a


biblical


rather than an evolutionary time scale. NPS Headquarters, however,
intervened and overruled Alston. To quiet the resulting furor, NPS


Chief


of
Communications David Barna told reporters that there would be a
high-level
policy review, distributing talking points stating: "We hope to have


a


final
decision in February [2004]." In fact, the promised review never
occurred -

a.. In late February, Barna crafted a draft letter to concerned
members of
Congress stating: "We hope to have a final decision on the book in


March


2004." That draft was rewritten in June and finally sent out to
Congressional representatives with no completion date for the review


at


all;
b.. NPS Headquarters did not respond to a January 25th memo from


its


own
top geologists charging that sale of the book violated agency


policies


and
undercut its scientific education programs;
c.. The Park Service ignored a letter of protest signed by the
presidents
of seven scientific societies on December 16, 2003.
"Promoting creationism in our national parks is just as wrong as
promoting
it in our public schools," stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch,


"If


the
Bush Administration is using public resources for pandering to


Christian


fundamentalists, it should at least have the decency to tell the


truth


about
it."

The creationist book is not the only religious controversy at Grand
Canyon
National Park. One week prior to the approved sale of Grand Canyon: A
Different View, NPS Deputy Director Donald Murphy ordered that bronze
plaques bearing Psalm verses be returned and reinstalled at canyon
overlooks. Superintendent Alston had removed the bronze plaques on


legal


advice from Interior Department solicitors. Murphy also wrote a


letter


of
apology to the plaques' sponsors, the Evangelical Sisterhood of Mary.
PEER
has collected other instances of what it calls the Bush


Administration's


"Faith-Based Parks" agenda.

_________________________
Peter Anderson, President
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Dept of Chemistry, 431 Jahn Laboratory *
SUNY-College of Environmental Science & Forestry
Syracuse, NY 13210 *
315-470-6597 djhughes@no.address *
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whether it happened or not."
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