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RE: [greenyes] Dell grants
this is also an important area in the computer and electronics sector
several companies are working to develop better reverse logistics to achieve the efficiencies of scale that Pat mentions
since transportation is such an important cost factor, if you can use the same "forward logistics" system in reverse, you can save a lot of $$$

Ted Smith

At 03:41 PM 12/16/2003 -0500, Pat Franklin wrote:
Reverse distribution, is using the same distribution system that distributed
the product to collect and return the product to the distributor.  The
beverage industry's "reverse distribution system", which collected
refillable bottles and returned them to the bottling plant to be washed and
refilled inspired the idea of "bottle bills" more than three decades ago.
The decentralization of the beer and soft drink industries and the demise of
refillables has pretty much done away with reverse distribution.  Even for
collection of bottle bill materials, third parties are often relied upon to
collect the bottles and cans.

When trucks loaded with PRODUCT drop off their wares, why not pick up used
products at the same time?

Patricia Franklin
Executive Director
Container Recycling Institute
1911 N. Fort Myer Drive, Ste. 702
Arlington, VA 22209

TEL:   703.276.9800
FAX:   703.276.9587
EMAIL: pfranklin@no.address

-----Original Message-----
From: CUYLER Alex D [mailto:Alex.D.CUYLER@no.address]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:21 PM
To: greenyes@no.address
Subject: [greenyes] Dell grants

I was intrigued by Helen Spiegleman's comments on the Dell tracking system for used computers and peripherals. The phrase she used, "reverse distribution" deserves some analysis. In looking at the economic implications of reverse distribution, how will it compare with the distribution of new goods and services? Money will be spent on many of the same features: trucking, advertising, packaging, administration, etc. What is the job creation potential here? How do these expenses compare with the traditional expenses associated with delivering these materials to a landfill or burner? Can we use this kind of analysis to show the economic value of product stewardship activities? In terms of who pays for these efforts, is there a comparison that can be made between traditional tax based economic development activities and product stewardship "fees"? In other words, if I pay $10.00 at the point of sale for the appropriate disposal of my computer, is this $10 more or less effective (in economic development terms) than the same $10.00 that I pay in local, state, or federal taxes? -- AC

Alex Cuyler
Recycling and Solid Waste Specialist
City of Eugene Planning and Development Department
phone: (541) 682-6830
fax:      (541) 682-6806

Ted Smith
Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition/Computer TakeBack Campaign
760 N. First Street,San Jose, CA 95112
408-287-6707-phone; 408-287-6771-fax
Food for thought: How Gandhi Defined the Seven Deadly Sins
· Wealth without work; · Pleasure without conscience; · Knowledge without character;· Commerce without morality;
· Science without humanity;· Worship without sacrifice;· Politics without principle

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