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RE: [greenyes] Sorry - as a general lurker -
Rather than weight or volume, I wonder if we shouldn't be looking at
environmental impact of various items.

For example, is it more important to divert a ton of glass, a ton of
aluminum or a ton of mercury (or even a hundred pounds of mercury)? 

John Reindl
Recycling Manager
Dane County, WI 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michele Raymond [mailto:michele@no.address]
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:04 PM
> To: Troy Glasner; greenyes@no.address;
> greenyes-sc.1041992863.epogmdeehlhmkfdmlgaf-troypam=magma.ca@no.address
> Subject: Re: [greenyes] Sorry - as a general lurker - you've caught my
> attention.., Fast Food, GreenDot
> 
> 
> Its a complex story.
> 
> By weight, PS foam is not much in the US, but it is a bit 
> bigger by VOLUME
> 
> Most cities only look at WEIGHT
> 
> If cities measured success by weight wed only be concerned 
> about  plastics 
> at nearly 30% and paper
> 
> GLASS is just 1.5% by volume  not worth recycling in many areas
> 
> Anything that is food contaminated is expensive to recycle 
> period  doesnt 
> matter if its paper or plastic
> 
> They tried to recycle PS foam and the economics were terrible 
>  So we now 
> TRASH the heavier paper.
> 
> Green Dot is a SYMBOL for financing owned by DSD Germany, 
> licensed in 16 
> countries including CSR in Canada
> 
> It is used in Europe but companies cant take it off too well 
> on global 
> packaging so they are supposed to pay a fee in Canada for the license.
> 
> No licensee in US -- pure politics I think.
> 
> Its all a complex issue and it goes back 15 years.
> 
> best of luck
> Michele Raymond
> 
> At 10:54 AM 4/10/2003 -0400, Troy Glasner wrote:
> >Hello:
> >
> >As a "good corporate" citizen - why is it weird that 
> corporations recycle 
> >their waste office paper - but companies like McDonalds 
> don't have "blue, 
> >and black bins" for their recyclables - a ton of their cup 
> tops could be 
> >recycled and their fry, mcnugget and burger boxes could all 
> be recycled - 
> >and I think it is funny - but those old styrene containers 
> that they got 
> >rid of - are they not more recyclable than the burger 
> wrap/wax papers?
> >
> >How much do the fast food chains contribute to landfill 
> every year - I 
> >once heard that the golden arches senior officials thought 
> that waste was 
> >good because it filled in all of the mining pits.
> >
> >Why is it so difficult for them to put in Waste containers 
> that divide 
> >materials - much of North American citizens divide daily - why can't 
> >they???  Is there anything being done on this level? I know 
> in Canada - 
> >I've never seen a recycle bin in a fast food place - but I 
> see recycle 
> >boxes in shopping mall food courts all the time.
> >
> >I know first hand that recycling works - an ICI plant I 
> think in Cornwall 
> >Ontario - has Mega bails of recycled cardboard - and the 
> smell of their 
> >plant - while putrid - smells of wet cardboard.  So 
> something is going right.
> >
> >One more thing - has anyone heard of the GREEN DOT program?  
> I know it is 
> >used in Germany - but in Canada - I believe the GREEN DOT 
> program is owned 
> >by the Plastics Association or something.... Clarification 
> would be great.
> >
> >Troy
> >
> >Troy Glasner
> >eKOS Building Solutions
> >Tel: 613 821-6223
> >Fax: 613 821-5909
> >E: troy@no.address
> 
> Michele Raymond
> Publisher
> Recycling Laws International/ State Recycling Laws Update
> 5111 Berwyn Rd. Ste 115 College Park, MD 20740)
> 301/345-4237   Fax 345-4768
> http://www.raymond.com
> 





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