FW: [GreenYes] RE: aluminum cans vs. plastis bottles

["Pat Franklin" <pfranklin@container-recycling.org>]

ME TOO

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-greenyes@grrn.org [mailto:owner-greenyes@grrn.org]On Behalf
Of Michele Raymond
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:58 AM
To: Wayne Turner; pfranklin@container-recycling.org;
gillianashley@optusnet.com.au
Cc: JenGitlitz@aol.com; KPaulson@container-recycling.org;
greenyes@grrn.org
Subject: Re: [GreenYes] RE: aluminum cans vs. plastis bottles


Green Yes

I am getting messages THREE TIMES!!! ???

Michele Raymond

At 11:16 AM 11/5/02 -0500, Wayne Turner wrote:
>Pat and friends,
>
>Actually the aluminum container recycling rate exceeds the PET bottle
>recycling rate by more than 3 times when you factor in the average 20%
>yield loss associated with producing RPET in the form of clean flake from
>PET bales.  So, while the PET recycling rate of 22.5% is widely published,
>the net recycling rate is 17.5%.  This info can be found in NAPCOR's
>lastest recycling activity report.  I'm assuming that there is no
>comparable yield loss with recycling aluminum cans.  Last report I heard
>pegged aluminum can recycling at 55%.
>
>Wayne
>
>
>B. Wayne Turner
>City of Winston-Salem
>Utilities Division
>phone: (336) 727 8418
>email: waynet@cityofws.org
>
> >>> "Pat Franklin" <pfranklin@container-recycling.org> 11/05/02 12:27PM
>>>
>Hello Gillian,
>
>It is very difficult to say which beverage container (aluminum can or
>plastic bottle) is environmentally preferable.  Ounce for ounce, the
>aluminum can would certainly seem to be the most damaging to the
environment
>if all environmental impacts are taken into consideration.  That said, the
>impacts are greatly mitigated when cans are recovered and used to make new
>aluminum cans.  The aluminum can recycling rate is about twice as high as
>the plastic beverage bottle and nearly all aluminum cans that are recycled
>are recycled back into aluminum cans.  That is not true for plastic
beverage
>bottles, since it is not as cost effective to make new plastic bottles from
>recycled bottles as it is to make new aluminum cans from used aluminum
cans.
>
>This is a very simplistic answer to a very complicated question.  I will
>copy CRI's Director of Research, Jenny Gitlitz on this email.  She is much
>more knowledgeable than I on this issuse.   I am also sending this out to
>Green Yes in the event there is someone on that listserve that wishes to
>comment on this.
>
>The very best design for beverage containers is the glass or plastic
>refillable bottle that can be reused over and over and over again without
>having to drill for oil or mine bauxite, without having to manufacture a
new
>container and without having to crush, melt or regrind the scrap material
>into a new can or bottle.  Plastic refillable bottles are more efficient
>than glass refillables when the shipping distance between bottling
>plant/brewery and wholesale/retail stores is long.  Glass and plastic
>refillable beverage bottles are in wide use in many parts of the world
>including:  Prince Edward Island, Sweden, Norway, Austria, The Netherlands,
>Denmark, Germany, South America, Mexico  to name a few.
>
>Best of luck in your studies,
>
>Pat Franklin
>
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>Patricia Franklin
>Executive Director
>Container Recycling Institute
>1911 N. Fort Myer Drive, Ste. 702
>Arlington, VA 22209
>
>TEL:   703.276.9800
>FAX:   703.276.9587
>EMAIL: pfranklin@container-recycling.org
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>http://www.container-recycling.org
>http://www.bottlebill.info
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Gillian Heathcote [mailto:gillianashley@optusnet.com.au]
>   Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:47 AM
>   To: info@Container-Recycling.org
>   Subject: aluminum cans vs. plastis bottles
>
>
>   Dear  Container Recycling Institute,
>
>   I am a attending the University of New South Wales in Sydney, studying
>Design.
>   I was wondering is you could tell me which is a more socially
responsible
>design; an aluminum can or a plastic bottle when packaging beverages. Both
>products can be recycled, but is one more efficient than the other? where
>can I find more information on this subject?
>
>   Thank you for your time,
>   Gillian Heathcote
>   __________________________________________________________________
>   gillian heathcote
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