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RE: [GreenYes] Gas 'n guzzling
I've been reading the e-mails on this and have few thoughts to offer from
the UK 
first what the hell is an SUV?
I've had my car converted to run on what we call gas (what you call gas we
call petrol)  I would ultimately like to convert ti Bio fuel.  We have
recycling projects here running their vehicles on chip fat (sorry french
fries oil)
The tone of the original e-mail wanted me to start up a counter e-mail
mission to boycott all US imperialism transnational chains MacDonalds,
Burger King, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Wal Mart and all the other ghastly
American cheap food and get rich quick whilst exploiting people (especially
immigrants, women, children, students etc) type outlets there are. (read
Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser).    It is the invasiveness of these
aspects of the American way (consumerism, the sanctity of the shareholder to
overide ethical concerns in the pursuit of profit) that so disturbs many non
Americans and some of the reason why, as the woman said on 9 11 'why do they
hate us?
( see 'why do people hate america')
Now I don't harbour any personal animosity towards Americans - many are good
friends - and I'm not saying that the Brits have it particularly better - in
fact we are almost an offshore state!  But the system that puts money and
the worship of money and personal gain above all else - and consumes more
per capita than anywhere else in the world - is bound to come in for some
Nicky Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Wayne Turner []
> Sent:	03 October 2002 15:45
> To:;
> Subject:	Re: [GreenYes] Gas
> I don't harbor any personal animosity toward the Saudis or anyone else who
> supplies our nation with oil.  They are simply delivering to us what we
> want.  No one is holding a gun to our head and forcing us to purchase
> their oil.  I am more bothered by the fact that we as a nation choose to
> continue our reliance on fossil fuels because our current energy economy
> is dominated by them.  We need, instead, to fund more research into
> sustainable, non-polluting energy sources such as hydrogen in order to
> move away from fossil fuels regardless of where they're found and who
> controls them.
> B. Wayne Turner
> City of Winston-Salem
> Utilities Division
> phone: (336) 727 8418
> email:
> >>> <> 10/02/02 08:27PM >>>
> This email was sent to me today. I thought I would pass it on. 
> Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the 
> coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import
> their 
> oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that
> every 
> time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to
> kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for
> you 
> to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from. 
> Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 
> -8/31/01). 
> Shell................ 205,742,000 barrels 
> Chevron/Texaco....... 144,332,000 barrels 
> Exxon /Mobil......... 130,082,000 barrels 
> Marathon............. 117,740,000 barrels 
> Amoco................ 62,231,000 barrels 
> If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
> Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: 
> Citgo 0 barrels 
> Sunoco 0 barrels 
> Conoco 0 barrels 
> Sinclair 0 barrels 
> BP/Phillips 0 barrels 
> Hess 0 barrels 
> All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and can
> be 
> easily documented. Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state
> where 
> they get their oil and how much they are importing. They report on a
> monthly 
> basis. 
> Keep this list in your car; share it with friends. Stop paying for 
> terrorism............. 
> But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. 
> It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out at this point...keep
> reading 
> and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! . 
> I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at
> least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten
> more 
> (300 x 10 = 3,000) .. and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth
> generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! 
> If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each,
> then 
> 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further,
> you 
> guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! . 
> Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. 
> How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten
> more 
> people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably
> be 
> contacted within the next 8 days!!! 
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