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Re: [GRRN] energy (and other) savings through recycling
We can't ignore the cost of trucking the tires away and having them burned
in concrete plants or shredded for daily landfill cover.  There are also
costs associated with importing power from "somewhere else".

The interim plan for us is to convert some of the potential value of the
tires into energy rather than burying them.  We still need an energy plan
which will mean that we buy electricity from coal fired plants or from Hydro
Quebec.

Recycling is the ideal vision.  The pragmatic approach requires that the
perfect cannot be the enemy of the good.    EE Haa.
-----Original Message-----
From: Muna Lakhani <muna@iafrica.com>
To: tomd <tomd@penn.com>
Cc: greenyes@earthsystems.org <greenyes@earthsystems.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [GRRN] energy (and other) savings through recycling


>tomd wrote:
>>
>> Please excuse a lurker, but I felt I had to respond to part of this.
>> :
>> >         Recycling can help create energy by providing the raw
materials we
>> > need to generate electricity.
>> >
>> >         Some of the ways we can do that include converting methane gas
>> > from landfills to energy, transforming old tires into electricity at
>> > special plants, and using organic materials like wood chips and
forestry
>> > and agriculture waste to fuel biomass plants that, in turn, generate
>> > electricity to power California homes and businesses.
>> >
>> >         The Waste Board is looking at all of these possibilities and
>> > working closely with the Governor's Office to meet California's energy
>> > needs on all fronts.
>> > ****************************************************
>>
>> This is NOT recycling. This is burning waste for fuel.
>>
>
>agreed - burning any waste, with any technology known, WILL produce
>harmful off gases - dioxins, furans, SO2, NOx, etc... this is no answer
>- just a blind alley designed by (mainly) the packaging industry - in
>fact, "energy from waste" is already attempting to be imposed in many
>countries, and some of us are fighting that, as it is simply not
>sustainable - they rely on a guaranteed supply of waste, and put the
>pollutants into the great landfill in the sky - also, the energy lost
>(between what it took to make the product, and what we get from burning
>it) leads to an overall inefficiency...
>
>do resist all these attempts - true recycling, after we have phased out
>as many "single use" products as possible, means using the material to
>make other products, not to turn it into toxic ash and air pollution...
>
>take care all...
>
>Muna
>
>
>
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