GreenYes Digest V98 #87

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GreenYes Digest Tue, 7 Apr 98 Volume 98 : Issue 87

Today's Topics:
[Fwd: Important Announcement -- Industrial Ecology III]
[Fwd: Part-time Event Coordinator Needed]
GreenYes Digest V98 #83
Looking for Recycling Heroes
recycling facility rules

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:50:21 -0700 From: Sharon Gates <> Subject:=20

Haya Geva wrote: >=20 > Hi all! > I have been asked to find shocking information about paper & paper production that will show children the damage it does to the environment, such as: > 1. How many trees are cut in order to produce one notebook. > 2. How many times can we circle the world with waste paper. >=20 > If you have any more interesting information about this subject, I'll be glad to receive it. >=20 > haya geva > > tel: 972 6 6349215 > fax: 972 6 6344373 >=20 > Haya Geva > > Tel: 972-6-6349213 > Fax: 972-6-6344373

I am concerned that Haya is seeking, specifically, "shocking information" about paper and "the damage it does to the environment" to pass along to children. This language indicates to me a pretty clear bias against paper. Now, I happen to agree that conventional paper production has major negative effects on the environment. However, using language such as "shocking" and "damage" invites claims of bias and allows people to dismiss your information as "environmentalist propoganda." =20

In my opinion, an objective investigation of the environmental _effects_ of paper production, combined with teaching children how to evaluate facts and providing an atmosphere for reasoned discussion, is more effective in the long run. Plus it prepares kids to investigate all kinds of other issues, as well. Kids aren't stupid - let them reach their own conclusions.

Sharon Gates Integrated Urban Forestry


Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:06:39 -0700 From: Myra Nissen <> Subject: [Fwd: Important Announcement -- Industrial Ecology III]

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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Important Announcement -- Industrial Ecology III -- Weekend Retreat Sold Out. Space still available for April 24th Workshop Intensive and Keynote Dinner. Sign up ASAP... For more info. visit Questions? Call Mary or Brian West at (415) 331-6232 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

As you may already know, the Future 500 will be hosting Industrial Ecology III, its third-annual environmental business workshop and roundtable retreat April 24-26 in San Francisco. IE III will draw together a highly dynamic group of people to learn, discuss, and put into practice cutting edge business and policy tools that emulate nature's efficient and creative systems.

The Roundtable Retreat portion of the event (April 25-26) is already sold-out, but there is still space available for the Workshop Intensive, April 24, at Fort Mason Center in San Francisco. Featured presenters include Fritjof Capra, author, "The Web of Life", Michelle Blazek=20 of AT&T, Gil Friend of Gil Friend and Assoc., Juanita Brown of Whole Systems Assoc., Art Kleiner, author, "The Fifth Discipline Fieldbook",=20 and Michael Kleeman of Boston Consulting.

Participants include representatives from Hewlett Packard, Nike, General Motors, Sanyo, Volvo, Mitsubishi Electric, Deloitte Touche, Quantum, Coors, Cal EPA, Cal Integrated Waste Management Board, Rainforest Action Network, and Earth Island Institute

Don't miss this exciting and important event. For more info. visit: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *Fax this form to (916) 486-5990 or e-mail it to *If you have any questions call Mary or Brian West at (415) 331-6232 *Sign-up Online!

Yes, I would like to attend:

____ Workshop Only (Apr. 24) Future 500 Member: $145 Nonmember:$195

____ IE III Reception and Keynote Dinner (Apr. 24) $100

____ Student Discount (must submit copy of current student ID) $145

____ Limited Membership $395 ($195 nonprofit/individual) Benefits include Future 500 Library (four "how-to-guides"), one free Future 500 workshop, discounts at Future 500 events, Future 500 web-site directory listing

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:03:39 -0700 From: Myra Nissen <> Subject: [Fwd: Part-time Event Coordinator Needed]

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We expect 200-300 people to come to this event to enjoy wonderful food and wine, listen to Sierra Club President Adam Werbach and Greens Head Chef Annie Somerville, and help us raise $15,000 to fight toxic pesticide use in CA.

* RESPONSIBILITIES: event design and logistics, volunteer coordination, materials production, outreach, media, and coordination of food and wine donations.

* CANDIDATES: creative and organized, with experience fundraising, organizing, planning events and working with volunteers.

Pay, hours are negotiable and flexible.

Event is August 29, start _ASAP_.

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___________________________________________ ************* Justin Ruben **************** Bay Area Organizer * Pesticide Watch 450 Geary St. #500 * San Francisco, CA 94102 p.415.292.1486 * f.415.292.1497 ************ ************** ___________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:04:28 -0400 From: Michele Raymond <> Subject: GreenYes Digest V98 #83

Dear Greenyes members:

First I would like the thank you for helping me find someone to help me with my Purchasing Preferences report!! I found some VERY qualified people, and one who was able to help.

I just wanted to also say that I believe some of the answers to many questions you have out there are in my newsletters and reports. However, I get no support from government or advertisers, so I must charge for my reports to make a living.

I have all the statistics on the laws in the U.S. and Canada and information on recycling laws in 34 countries.

The 1997 Year-End Edition is only $99, and the tables should be extremely useful for many of you.

I have special National Recycling coalition PRICES even, posted on my web site.

Here is the press release on the latest report we published on Germany:

German Packaging Ordinance Still Haunts Industry

For Immediate Release Information: Michele Raymond

March 5, 1998 -- German consumers used nearly 11% less packaging in 1995 than 1991, while disposable packaging use in the U.S. increased about 13% during the same period, according to an updated report "Getting Green Dotted: The German Recycling Law Explained in Plain English" published this month by Raymond Communications, Inc. Riverdale MD. Critics say Germany, with its extreme "manufacturers' responsibility" system for package recycling, has not really succeeded in reducing use of packaging, even though it forces industry to pay about $2.3 billion in fees to ensure "take back" in a separate system, run by the Duales System Deutschland (DSD). Publisher Michele Raymond does not totally agree with the critics. "It is true Germany still has the most expensive and possibly inefficient package recycling system in the world, but to say that Germany has made no progress is not quite fair." The figures, published in the updated Green Dot report, showed that packaging use continued to decline somewhat for most materials even after the German recession in 1992, so some of the decline could be attributed to incentives from the law. DSD charges about 91 cents a pound for plastics; 12 cents for paperboard sales packaging. Raymond notes that in Germany, all types of packaging declined: tinplate lost 17%, paper lost 5.8%; aluminum lost 21% and plastic lost 4%. In the U.S., figures of potential packaging discards from Franklin Associates showed that all types of materials gained from 1991-1995 except steel. Packaging papers/board grew 15.7% and wood (mostly pallets) grew 34%. Also irritating to manufacturers is that the Germans are "advising" governments in Asia and Latin America on waste policy =97 quietly promoting "producer responsibility." Coincidentally, Germany is one of the world's leaders in exports of environmental technologies, vying with the U.S. in an emerging $100 billion world market. "Getting Green Dotted..." provides practical guidance for manufacturers and others concerned about "extended producer responsibility" policies, which are now on the books in about 28 countries worldwide.=20 The 53-page report covers history, labeling, the refillables quota issue, how fees are assessed, transport packaging, proposed amendments to the Ordinance; the Kassel Tax; effects on packaging consumption and packaging designs, comparison of fees, material flows, DSD's influence globally, answers to frequently-asked questions, and phone numbers of third party recycling organization; Appendix has full text of the German law, the Directive on Packaging & Packaging Waste, and two papers presenting opposing views on the German system.=20 The report is available from Raymond Communications, Inc. 6429 Auburn Ave. Riverdale MD 20737; ($79 plus $5 postage;$45 plus for subscribers Discounts for NRC members -- go the the web site!) it is also free with a new subscription to Recycling Laws International, a bi-monthly newsletter, which covers recycling policies in 34 countries. Information: Call 301-345-4237; Fax 301-345-4768 E- Mail:; Table of contents to be on the web site. New web address: =20 -30-

Subscription Services: (These have NRC discounted rates and government rates see web site) $327 STATE RECYCLING LAWS UPDATE 1 yr Subscription; 8 issues; 1998 Year-End Edition $347 Recycling Laws International 1 yr; Country Pages, Green Dot, & 6 Updates (Subs come with Free E-mail headline service!) $597 SRLU/RLI purchased together REPORTS: $99 SRLU Year-End Edition 1997 $147 SRLU Year-End 1998 (7/98) $79+Postage ($50 Subs) Getting Green Dotted 1998 NRC D $187 ($104 subs) Transportation Packaging & Environment 1997 NRC D $750 State Recycled Newsprint Content Standards: Status & Analysis $175 (Govt: $125; Subs: $90) Purchasing Preferences for Recycled Products (5/98) $297 (Subs $247) PROCEEDINGS Take it Back! =9197 (11/97) NRC D $297 (Subs $247) Recycling in Latin America (4/98) NRC D $397 (Subs: $337) Battery Recovery Laws Worldwide (8/98) Electronic Products: $199 (Subs only) Electronic Spreadsheet; Recycling Laws U.S. & 30 countries; Packaging & Durables; DFD charts; in Excel; .wks; includes site license $599 Research Package (non-subs) Spreadsheets, Country pages & Green Dot in Acrobat or WP; searchable; site license. (6/98)


If you need further information, please call us at 301/345-4237=20 Web site:

I didn't send this before because it seemed commercial, but the information my be useful to many of you!!

Sorry I don't get much time to post more often but I have a very small operation.

best of luck!

Michele Raymond Publisher

Michele Raymond Publisher Recycling Laws International/ State Recycling Laws Update 6429 Auburn Ave. Riverdale MD 20737-1614 301/345-4237 Fax 345-4768


Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:57:59 EDT From: CRRA <> Subject: Looking for Recycling Heroes


Joel Makower wrote a book called "Good, Green Jobs" which includes some= great examples of recycling businesses for this purpose. =20

You can get free copies from CA Dept. of Conservation at 800-RECYCLE.

Gary Liss


Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:08:39 -0500 From: Bill Carter <> Subject: recycling facility rules

The discussion about regulating recycling facilities and protecting the environment from "sham" recyclers continues here at the Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission. I have been asked to compare our regulatory definitions and requirements for "recycling facilities," "dirty MRFs," and "transfer stations" with those of other states and the US EPA.

Please share references to web sites or contact persons who could help me in this search.

Thank you.

Bill Carter, Program Specialist Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission Recycling Section, Office of Pollution Prevention & Recycling MC114 P.O. Box 13087, Austin, TX 78711-3087 USA (512) 239-6771


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