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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:32:45 -0600
From: "John Reindl" <reindl@co.dane.wi.us>
Subject: energy in a barrel of oil
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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:43:47 -0500
From: "David L. Turner" <Dturner@ysi.com>
Subject: energy in a barrel of oil
Can anyone point me to some information sources that would
provide the equivalent number of Kilowatt hours (or other
energy units) for a barrel of oil? I know it depends on
the type of oil, the method of energy retrieval, etc. and
am not expecting exactly accurate conversion numbers. We
are looking for some useful numbers to use to communicate
to our employees energy savings we achieve in terms other
than kWh. Thanks in advance.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I didn't get a harrumph from that man!
The Gov in "Blazing Saddles"
Regards,
David Turner
YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
1725 Brannum Lane
Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
Email: DTurner@YSI.com
Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:49:10 -0400
From: "Diamond, Craig" <DiamondC@mail.ci.tlh.fl.us>
Subject: energy in a barrel of oil
sources abound throughout engineering lit. (ie, handbooks of physics,
chemistry, etc.)
typical values are 5.8 - 5.9 million BTU per barrel (42 gal) or about
1700-1725 kW-hr.
The source on my desk at the moment is Odum, 1983 referencing Merill, 1974.
I trust the #'s haven't changed as these are generally based on
bomb-calorimeter measurements.
The range of heat values is _not_ net, just the raw heat value of the free
product.
CD
Craig Diamond
Tallahassee-Leon County Planning Dept.
City Hall
300 S. Adams
Tallahassee, FL 32301
USA
E-mail: diamondc@mail.ci.tlh.fl.us
Tel: (850) 891-8621
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> ----------
> From: David L. Turner[SMTP:Dturner@ysi.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 12:43 PM
> To: GreenYes@ucsd.edu
> Subject: energy in a barrel of oil
>
> Can anyone point me to some information sources that would
> provide the equivalent number of Kilowatt hours (or other
> energy units) for a barrel of oil? I know it depends on
> the type of oil, the method of energy retrieval, etc. and
> am not expecting exactly accurate conversion numbers. We
> are looking for some useful numbers to use to communicate
> to our employees energy savings we achieve in terms other
> than kWh. Thanks in advance.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> I didn't get a harrumph from that man!
> The Gov in "Blazing Saddles"
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> David Turner
> YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
> 1725 Brannum Lane
> Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
> Email: DTurner@YSI.com
> Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
> Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
>
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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 14:36:32 -0400
From: "Diamond, Craig" <DiamondC@mail.ci.tlh.fl.us>
Subject: energy in a barrel of oil
the 4:1 or at best 3:1 ratio between the heat content of fossil fuel and the
heat equivalent value of electricity delivered to the doorstep still
applies.
CD
Craig Diamond
Tallahassee-Leon County Planning Dept.
City Hall
300 S. Adams
Tallahassee, FL 32301
USA
E-mail: diamondc@mail.ci.tlh.fl.us
Tel: (850) 891-8621
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> ----------
> From: John Reindl[SMTP:reindl@co.dane.wi.us]
> Reply To: reindl@co.dane.wi.us
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 1:32 PM
> To: David L. Turner; GreenYes@ucsd.edu
> Subject: Re: energy in a barrel of oil
>
> From a BioCycle article written by Jerry Powell in the March/April
> 1981 issue, he gives a barrel of oil about 5.8 million BTUs or 1700
> KWH of electricity equivalent.
>
> However, the KWH equivalent is based on a KWH having the equivalent
> of 3,413 BTUs.
>
> While this is true for the delivered KWH, it excludes the loss to
> convert fuels to electricity and deliver it to the end user.
>
> In electrical engineering classes of some 25 years ago, we used the
> rule of thumb that it takes 10,000 BTUs of fossil fuel to produce
> one KWH of power delivered to the end user. No doubt, today's plants
> are more efficient.
>
> With the rule of thumb above, a barrel of oil, if burned, would
> produce about 580 KWH of delivered power.
>
> You should use the conversion factor of KWH per barrel depending on
> your comparison, whether at the point of generation or point of use.
>
> John Reindl, Recycling Manager
> Dane County, WI
>
>
>
> > From: "David L. Turner" <Dturner@ysi.com>
> > Organization: YSI, Inc.
> > To: GreenYes@ucsd.edu
> > Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:43:47 -0500
> > Subject: energy in a barrel of oil
> > Priority: normal
>
> > Can anyone point me to some information sources that would
> > provide the equivalent number of Kilowatt hours (or other
> > energy units) for a barrel of oil? I know it depends on
> > the type of oil, the method of energy retrieval, etc. and
> > am not expecting exactly accurate conversion numbers. We
> > are looking for some useful numbers to use to communicate
> > to our employees energy savings we achieve in terms other
> > than kWh. Thanks in advance.
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > I didn't get a harrumph from that man!
> > The Gov in "Blazing Saddles"
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > David Turner
> > YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
> > 1725 Brannum Lane
> > Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
> > Email: DTurner@YSI.com
> > Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
> > Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
>
> reindl@co.dane.wi.us
> (608)267-1533 - fax
> (608)267-8815 - phone
>
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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:22:06 -0400
From: "Bill Sheehan" <bill_sheehan@mindspring.com>
Subject: Federal Recycling Issues
Gentle GreenYes Readers,
The White House will be hosting a meeting on recycling issues May 19 to 21.
The meeting is preliminary to a bigger deal that is supposed to happen next
fall or winter (probably after the elections). The purpose of both is to
bring attention to recycling and explore how the federal government might
help.
Several individuals connected with the GrassRoots Recycling Network have been
invited to attend the May meeting. We would like to know what issues you feel
should be brought to the attention of the federales. Some I have heard
include:
- subsidies for virgin materials and waste facilities
- subtitle D landfill regulations that primarily delay environmental
liabilities and thus lead to underpriced cost of waste disposal
- federal support for community development programs that create jobs from
recycling
- lack of producer responsibility for waste
- change in anti-trust laws to prevent wasteful practices (e.g. Lexmark
'Prebate' program)
What other issues? What does the White House need to hear on these and other
issues?
Thanks for your thoughts,
************************
Bill Sheehan
Network Coordinator
GrassRoots Recycling Network
P.O. Box 49283
Athens GA 30604-9283
Tel & Fax 706-208-1416
bill_sheehan@mindspring.com
http://www.kirkworks.com/grrn.htm
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Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:46:53 -0700
From: Richard Anthony <RANTHOPW@co.san-diego.ca.us>
Subject: Federal Recycling Issues -Reply
The White House will be hosting a meeting on recycling issues
We would like to know what issues you feel should be brought to
the attention of the federales.
To Bill Sheehan:
As my GRRN Representative I think you should focus in and not
deviate from the mantra;
FEDERAL SUPPORT AND INITIATION OF ZERO WASTE AS A
DESIGN PRINCIPAL
FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO ENABLE COMPANIES TO CREATE
JOBS FROM DISCARDS
FEDERAL ACTIONS TO END SUBSIDIES FOR WASTING
FEDERAL SUPPORT TO ENCOURAGE CORPORATE
RESPONSIBILITY
Rick Anthony
San Diego CA
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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 23:43:49 EDT
From: Jango <Jango@aol.com>
Subject: Philadelphia's Story Continues...
We've got a real humdinger going here in Philadelphia (the article below
only tells a small part of a very strange story).
As the Mayor's Office and the Managing Director's Office stumble, fumble
and ignore the need to replace Al Dezzi (recycling coordinator in Philly
for a decade), they are also trying to push forward a trash contract that
while very beneficial to the city ($41/ton for a million tons a year) has
opened a major can of worms that threatens as much as $30-$40 million in
savings to taxpayers.
Our fearless leaders no longer seem to understand that the reason
Philadelphia has a recycling program and a solid waste management plan is
because Philadelphia has a moratorium against trash disposal facilities
in the city limits. Recycling and other forms of waste reduction are the
least we can do to take responsibility for the waste we dump in our
neighbor's kitchens. Yet, instead of upgrading recycling, the
administration is looking for ways to kill it. No question about it. They
have not even started to interview people for the recycling position in
the five months since Al's departure.
As to the Chester facility, members of the advisory committee had been
trying to get the Mayor's people to talk to them for nearly a year. Even
people in the Streets Department told the Mayor they needed to talk to
the advisory committee.
The article below appeared in the Philadelphia Daily News today. Things
could get very interesting, very soon...
Heading: Waste panel rejects Ed's trash plan
City/Local | Daily News
May 8, 1998
City/Localt
Waste panel rejects Ed's trash plan
The city's Solid Waste Advisory Committee voted yesterday to reject the
Rendell administration's proposed multi-year trash disposal contract
because
some garbage would go to a controversial incinerator in Chester.
Under state law, the committee reviews the city's solid waste plans and
advises City Council, which must approve the contract. The multi-year
deal is
worth up to $323 million to USA Waste Services Inc. and BFI Waste Systems.
BFI operates a trash-burning plant in a Chester neighborhood where
residents
have filed suit charging environmental racism because four waste
facilities
are located nearby.
"Chester is the premier national case of environmental justice," said
Committee member Maurice Sampson. "They've in effect built a toxic waste
industrial park down there."
BFI says the plant is well-run and lives within the state's environmental
laws.
#########################################################
David Biddle
7366 Rural Lane
Philadelphia, PA 19119
215-247-2974 (voice and fax)
jango@aol.com
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
However, the KWH equivalent is based on a KWH having the equivalent
of 3,413 BTUs.
While this is true for the delivered KWH, it excludes the loss to
convert fuels to electricity and deliver it to the end user.
In electrical engineering classes of some 25 years ago, we used the
rule of thumb that it takes 10,000 BTUs of fossil fuel to produce
one KWH of power delivered to the end user. No doubt, today's plants
are more efficient.
With the rule of thumb above, a barrel of oil, if burned, would
produce about 580 KWH of delivered power.
You should use the conversion factor of KWH per barrel depending on
your comparison, whether at the point of generation or point of use.
John Reindl, Recycling Manager
Dane County, WI
> From: "David L. Turner" <Dturner@ysi.com>
> Organization: YSI, Inc.
> To: GreenYes@ucsd.edu
> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:43:47 -0500
> Subject: energy in a barrel of oil
> Priority: normal
> Can anyone point me to some information sources that would
> provide the equivalent number of Kilowatt hours (or other
> energy units) for a barrel of oil? I know it depends on
> the type of oil, the method of energy retrieval, etc. and
> am not expecting exactly accurate conversion numbers. We
> are looking for some useful numbers to use to communicate
> to our employees energy savings we achieve in terms other
> than kWh. Thanks in advance.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> I didn't get a harrumph from that man!
> The Gov in "Blazing Saddles"
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> David Turner
> YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
> 1725 Brannum Lane
> Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
> Email: DTurner@YSI.com
> Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
> Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
reindl@co.dane.wi.us
(608)267-1533 - fax
(608)267-8815 - phone
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