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Today's Topics:
(Fwd) -29 ARRESTS! Earth First! ANTI-EXXON! Support Neede
co-composting MSW with sewage sludge
co-composting with sewage sludge
Composting info request
Fwd: Re: P Moore's "Green Bans..." editorial in the Canberra Times
Green Building Discussion Group
Sierra Club goes zero waste?
Sierra Club goes zero waste? -Reply
status of USHR 515 and USSB 207
URGENT INNU ALERT-stop Hydro Quebec
WASTE: URGENT INNU ALERT-stop Hydro Quebec (3 msgs)

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 10:42:33 -0400
From: "Barbara Schaefer" <>
Subject: (Fwd) -29 ARRESTS! Earth First! ANTI-EXXON! Support Neede

From: "Mark Peterson" <>
Organization: university of wisconsin centers
Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:47:48 +0000
Subject: (Fwd) -29 ARRESTS! Earth First! ANTI-EXXON! Support Needed!
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From: (Ben Manski, WI) (by way of Bron
Taylor <>)
Subject: !29 ARRESTS! Earth First! ANTI-EXXON!
to: Sisters and Brothers in the Movement
from: EF! July 7th Support Committee
re: Summary of Arrests, What You Can Do, The Exxon Mine

* * * * *

EF! July 7th Support Committee
c/o UW Greens, 731 State Street
Four Lakes Madison, Wisconsin 53703
608-262-9036 (ph), 608-251-3267 (fax)

* * * * *

A) Summary

Unlawful Assembly? Exxon Mining? Not in Wisconsin?!?!

One week ago today, Monday, July 7th, 29 people were unlawfully arrested
in Forest County, Wisconsin, while taking part in an Earth First!
protest against the proposed Wolf River Exxon/Rio Algom corporation
metallic sulfide mine. In Crandon, where the majority of arrests took
place, protesters were seized by Sheriff's Department, Crandon Police
Department, and other law enforcement officials after just over 20
minutes of chanting, holding signs, and folksinging on the sidewalk -
Our supposed crime? "Unlawful Assembly." At Mole Lake, some 20 miles
south, a dozen folk were chased down by law enforcement, and in some
cases were tackled to the ground - The offense here was supposedly
"Criminal Trespass." Another group of protestors from Rhinelander
arrived in Crandon only to find many of their friends in jail and the
police indiscriminately arresting folks left and right. In all, some
five dozen Sheriff's Department, City of Crandon, City of Rhinelander,
Forest Service Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs), and other cops were
involved in violently suppressing peaceful protests by 120 people in two
Wisconsin communities.

Once in police handcuffs, things went from bad to worse. Folks were
bussed hundreds of miles to five different jails in five different
counties; some were placed in solitary confinement; some were denied
access to a telephone; some were denied clothing; some on hunger strike
were denied water; all of us were denied the right to speak with our
attorney. Our bail hearings did not come until Wednesday, two days
after the arrests, and bond was set between $350 and $500 for every
arrested protestor - Keep in mind that none of us was charged with
anything more than a misdemeanor crime. In essence, we were all thrown
in jail and abused because of our ecological beliefs - We were, and have
been since, political prisoners, held for nothing more than exercising
our first amendment rights.

We intend to fight the unlawful and unjust police action against us
every step of the way. We are assembling a full legal defense team. We
are bringing our case door to door to the people of Wisconsin and other
states. We are responding to scores of calls each day from folks wanting
to know how they can help. And we need your help:

* * * * *

B) We Need You

!!) Cash - Legal, transportation, phone, printing, and related costs are
mounting. We need money badly. Make checks payable to: "EF! July 7th
Support Committee", c/o UW Greens, 731 State Street, Four Lakes Madison,
Wisconsin 53703.

a) Support Committee - We need you to formally sign on to our support
committee. To sign on, please send us a letter indicating your formal
support, and include any relevent contact information (organizational
affiliations, address, phone, email). We will compile a full committee
list on a weekly basis. We will update committee members regularily,
and will use the committee list publicly to demonstrate community

b) Support Statements - We need you to circulate "Statements of Support"
among the general public. These statements are written in petition
format and state "In defense of the 1st Amendment rights to Freedom of
Assembly and Freedom of Speech: We, the undersigned residents of
Wisconsin, express our support for the 29 people wrongfully arrested on
Monday, July 7th, 1997, in Forest County, Wisconsin, while peacefully
protesting the proposed Wolf River Exxon/Rio Algom corp. sulfide mine."
We started circulating these Statements of Support yesterday and already
have 400 signatures from Wisconsin. We also have Support Statements
ready for folks in other states (MN, IL, NY, etc). Our goal is to have
10,000 signatures on these statements by the end of August. If you can
collect support signatures in your area, please call our office
immediately and we will get a master copy of the Support Statement to
you in the mail ASAP.

c) Calls - We need you to keep the phones ringing off the hook in
Madison and in Forest County. For the timebeing, there are three
targets: Wisconsin Attorney General James Doyle at 608-266-1221, Forest
County Sheriff Roger Wilson at 715-478-3331, and Crandon Mayor Vern
Kincaid at 715-478-3690. Demand that all charges be dropped against the
July 7th Defendents. Ask them why local enforcement is helping Exxon
stamp out local protests.

d) Letters - We need you to write letters to the editor of local
publications. Here's a couple that are just waiting to print your
letter: The Capital Times, Box 8060, Madison, WI 53708; WI State
Journal, Box 8058, Madison, WI 53708; Milw. Journal Sentinel, Box 661,
Milwaukee, WI 53201-0661; Forest Republican, Box 367, Crandon, WI 54520;
Daily News, Box 778, Rhinelander, WI 54501; Daily Telegram, 1226 Ogden
Ave, Superior, WI 54880. And remember, it's only Exxon and the other
mining corporations that are our opposition - Whatever you might think
of law enforcement officials and their actions, stick to the 1st
Amendment and the mining issues, and we'll do well.

e) July 28th - We need you to keep in mind that our pretrial hearing is
coming up in two weeks, on July 28th, and that we need this support now.
If you are within the immediate region (WI, MN, MI, IL), we need you at
our rally in Crandon on the 28th. If you are not within travelling
distance, please make sure you make those calls, send those checks,
write those letters, and so on, today.

f) Meetings - The EF! July 7th Support Committee coordinators committee
will be meeting twice weekly on Mondays and Wednesday on an ongoing
business. To find out when and where the next meeting is, call our
office in Madison at 608-262-9036.

* * * * *

C) Toxic Mining in the Great Lakes: Why You Need Us\

The arrests in Crandon and Mole Lake took place following the 1997 Earth
First! Round River Rendezvous. The Rendezvous came to Wisconsin amidst
growing evidence of mining industry political manipulation. In the
course of the last year, substantive evidence has emerged that Exxon and
other extraction corporations have succesfully biased the Wisconsin
Department of Natural Resources, influenced the Wisconsin State
Legislature, dismantled such environmental watchdogs as the offices of
the Public Intervenor and the Secretary of State, and interfered in the
local politics of many Wisconsin townships, counties, and Indian
communities. Additionally, the Exxon corporation has spent millions of
dollars on a public relations blitzkrieg that has included television,
print, and radio ads, as well as the formation of three front groups in
Wisconsin, the most notorious of which is People for the West, a wholly
owned and operated subsidiary of the mining corporations.

Why have Exxon, Rio Algom, RTZ, Kennecott, Inmet, Broken Bill
Proprietaries, and other transnational mining corporations invested so
much in subverting democracy in Wisconsin? Because, as always, there's
a quick buck to be made - In the case of the mining industry, a quick
five to ten billion bucks to be made. Mining corporations are crawling
all over Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, and Ontario these days, hoping
to extract from the deep rock of the Laurentian Shield, and other
related geologic formations, a mineral wealth which for millenia has
lain untouched beneath the surface - Copper, gold, uranium, zinc, lead,
mercury, arsenic, chromium, and sulfides - Metallic sulfide ores.

The resistance to metallic sulfide mining in Wisconsin has been
incredible. Hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites have marched, written
letters, voted, made telephone calls, signed petitions, and taken part
in nonviolent blockades, all to stop the mining corporations from taking
over. Wisconsinites are worried that the toxic sulfuric acid wastes
produced by the proposed mines will contaminate our clean waters, as
every metallic sulfide mine has done up to this point. Folks are
worried that the mining process itself, with all the water it uses and
expels, will result in a drying up of streams and ponds, and in net
transfers of polluted water from one water table to another. People are
concerned that secondary air pollution effects from the processing of
the mining ore and from the coal burnt to power the mining operations,
will further contribute to acid rain and mercury buildup in our pristine
lakes. Townspeople fear that the mining industry will undermine our
Northwoods economy by creating short term dependency and long term
unemployment for local people. Wisconsin native american communities,
Anishinabe, Menominee, Oneida, Ho-Chunk, Potawatomi, first to feel the
potential brunt of the toxic mining pollution, are fighting the
transnationals tooth and nail in what many describe as a struggle of
resistance against the final genocide: Destruction of traditional lands
and waters. Labor unions are exercising their role as the muscles of
popular will by passing anti-mining resolutions and organizing
rank-and-file in opposition to the corporate takeover.

and what does this mean to folks outside of the upper midwest?

Consider that Lake Superior is home to 20% of the world's freshwater

Consider that Wisconsin feeds the world with family-farm-produced dairy,
soybeans, cranberries, ginseng, maple sugars, potatoes, grains, and

Consider the Upper Midwest stands among the places where there is still
hope for democracy, for sustainability, for social justice - The
populist heritage of prairie fire and the traditional knowledge of First
Nations peoples are under attack.

If you would like more information on the anti-mining struggle in
Wisconsin, please either contact us directly at 608-262-9036, or check
out the EarthWINS webpages at:

Thanks to you - In Solidarity - Ben Manski


Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:11:17 -0500
From: "Susan K. Snow" <>
Subject: co-composting MSW with sewage sludge

Does anyone know about the Bedminster Bioconversion corporation
co-composting plant in Sevier County, Tennessee? Here, mixed municipal
solid waste is composted with sewage sludge. Can anyone tell me the
quality of their compost; the quality of the environment about the

Susan Snow


Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 18:15:35 -0500
From: "Susan K. Snow" <>
Subject: co-composting with sewage sludge

Has anyone taken a chemical analysis sample of the finished compost from
a Bedminister or other co-composting operation in their community?

Can anyone snail mail me newspaper articles about Bedminster or other
co-compost facilities?

I have two communities that I have been working with that may go that
route. As for me, I personally believe in source separation and
composting only the vegetation with food wastes (less meat, fat, bones)
and possibly manure but not sludge. Still, I'm trying to keep an open

Susan Snow
417 Brentwood Blvd.
Lafayette, LA 70503


Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:16:26 -0400
From: Myra Nissen <>
Subject: Composting info request

A reply from a friend in the composting arena
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My comments tend toward skepticism as to the actual greenwaste content of=

sifted "fines". I would suspect a lot of cigarette trash, based on what
comes out of the bag at our house. Ordinary dirt would sift into that
fraction, as would a variety of other small crud. Of course, hair,
etc that might occur in vacuum cleaner dirt, is correctly classified as
carbon/nitrogen compostable matter. I have little concern about heavy
related to vacuum cleaner trash, and the human and animal residues found =
household dirt. The thing that jumps out for me is ash, which can contai=
some metals and insoluble fibers, such as carpet fabrics.. However, with=

metals, there are two significant mitigations occuring with the compostin=
and landspreading methods of recycling. The most important is DILUTION. =

the EPA maximum of 800ppm for lead, as an example, it would take almost a=

century of application at normal agricultural rates (which vary according=

the nitrogen content of the compost and the crop requirements) to approac=
the cumulative load on an acre. Compost can be applied at much higher
than biosolids. It is already diluted hundreds of times, and is regulate=
be below EPA requirements. It is then further diluted by the extremely
mass of the soil. The second mitigation is Chelation, or biological
immobilization. As soil organisms utilize soil organic matter, they
ions like zinc, lead, etc and prevent it from leaching or from being take=
in large amounts by plants. As the organisms decay, metals cycle into th=
vegetative cover, and are gradually removed from the site, or they are
absorbed by something else. This is why very boggy acidic soils are not
targeted for biosolids applications, because the metals are more mobile i=
acid soil, and leaching can occcur more easily. It is worth noting that
migration of heavy metals in soils is very infrequently observed. It is
important to the environmental cycling of these materials that the land b=
kept supplied with sufficient organic matter to ensure healthy numbers an=
healthy diversity of soil microbes. Generally soils that are actively
are the best candidates for the beneficial reuse because the soil habitat=

most conducive to both the mitigation of heavy metals and to the
of pathogens. We can either accept the minimal risk of recyling these
products in the best possible manner, or we will be eating, breathing, an=
swimming in the stuff because it is not disposed of in a natural
best equipped to remediate it.

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:20:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fwd: Re: P Moore's "Green Bans..." editorial in the Canberra Times

This is from the Society of American Foresters' email list. It is the
industry view opposing efforts to protect large blocks of forest (e.g.
national forests in the US, a la the Zero Cut campaign).

David Orr
Pasadena CA
Forwarded message:
From: (S.I.Cameron)
Reply-to: FOREST@LISTSERV.FUNET.FI (FOREST Mailing list on forest research
and studies)
To: FOREST@LISTSERV.FUNET.FI (Multiple recipients of list FOREST)
Date: 97-07-17 16:19:47 EDT

Patrick Moore wrote (see for the text):

"First, it is important to note that fully 50% of all wood used in the
world is burned to supply energy for cooking and heating, mostly in
developing countries where people cannot afford fossil fuels. ....
unsustainable fuel wood gathering >is< a major cause of deforestation in
the tropical countries."

... and later on in the same article:

"The second prong of their [the environmental movement] agenda is to
reduce wood use as a building material and substitute it with so-called
'environmentally appropriate alternatives'. ... The only viable
substitutes for wood as a building material are steel, cement, plastic
and bricks. All of these materials require a great deal more energy to
make than wood. ... All these substitutes are non-renewable and have
severe environmental impacts of their own. ..."

... just some thoughts:

If the logic of the above facts is extended to apply to the people in
developing countries, it can be said that the unwitting agenda of the
environmental movement - perhaps through ignorance of world land use and
its consequences - is to further impoverish and disadvantage third world

Removing third world access to a supply of industrial wood (as opposed
to fuelwood), which does not necessarily have to be of local origin
(could be imported), would delay improvements in their standard of
living since the alternative materials are also more expensive and
therefore even more inaccessible. The third world alternatives, in turn
would be to place even more pressure on local wood supplies, many of
which are in the tropics and subtropics, not just for for cheap building
materials but also for the sustained supply of fuelwood. It is worth
noting that the level of fuel wood consumption - the other 50% - would
be higher for a longer time if insufficient global wood supply were to
prove detrimental to the standard of living in developing countries.
This is exactly what the environmental movement would >not< wish to

Restricting the wood supply is, then, at best maintaining the global
environment status quo, but more likely as the world population
increases, taking a step backwards in areas of the globe where the
penalty to be paid is least deserved.

The bottom line then is, that viewed from a global wood supply
perspective, wood taken sustainably from forests is better than no wood
at all, and wood harvested from plantations is better still, as David
South and others have advocated on this list. This is a better
alternative than to suggest that we decrease or stop altogether
harvesting the forest.

- Stewart

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| Canadian Forest Service - Atlantic Region |
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:46:34 -0700
From: Carolyn Chase <>
Subject: Green Building Discussion Group

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:35:51 +0200
Subject: Sierra Club goes zero waste?

To all Zero Waste supporters - it is being mooted that a "Zero Waste
International" group of interested parties gets going - I have volunteered
my services as a contact point here in South Africa...

Will others please give this some thought.....


Mr. Muna Lakhani
Cellfax: 082-131-416-9160
28 Currie Road - Durban - 4001 - South Africa
Phone: +27-31-20-28-291


Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:26:55 -0500
From: Pete Pasterz <Pete.Pasterz@USDWP.MSU.EDU>
Subject: Sierra Club goes zero waste? -Reply

What has happened on this idea? As a GRRN member, and a group chair in the
chapter, I'd like to know what steps are being contemplated/implemented.


>>> <> 06/23/97 06:43pm >>>

I think you're onto something here: why not have the Sierra Club office in
San Francisco go zero waste? :-) A demonstration project, of sorts... I
hesitate to suggest it for the DC office, since it's on Capitol Hill which is
built on waste; it might be hard for the DC office to avoid the stuff!

But seriously, I think it's an intriguing idea to make that an objective. It
would be nice to get the club to go tree-free on paper, as a start. Last
time I was in the copy rooms, I only saw Eureka 20% recycled paper.
Obviously, there's work to do in that area.

We would definitely need help from a lot of Sierra Club members and other
environmentalists to accomplish this, but wouldn't it be fun?

David Orr


Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:57:40 -0400
From: "Blair Pollock" <>
Subject: status of USHR 515 and USSB 207

I only recently read about these two bills related to ending corporate
subsidies and study their effects on the US treasury. Does anyone know their


Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 10:45:05 -0400
From: "Barbara Schaefer" <>
Subject: URGENT INNU ALERT-stop Hydro Quebec

Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:57:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: (David Fingrut)
Subject: URGENT INNU ALERT-stop Hydro Quebec
Send reply to:


The Innu need your help to ensure that the Moise River, the greatest
returning Atlantic Salmon habitat, is declared a permanently protected as a
Heritage River. We urge you to e-mail and fax this alert to your networks.
We need a flood of international and U.S. faxes to be sent to Mr. Guy
Chevrette, Quebec Minister of Natural Resources with copies faxed to Mr.
David Cliche, Minister of the Environment and Premier Lucien Bouchard as
soon as possible. Any day now a decision may be made to allow Hydro Quebec
to destroy the Moise River forever to fill U.S. energy needs. Please act
now before it is too late. Faxes create a paper trail and your signature
and address is vital.

Armand Mckenzie, Avocat e-mail: Tel: 418/968-4890
days, 418/927-3285
John Clark, Friends of Nitassinan e-mail: Tel:
Tom Holzinger, Comite' baic-James e-mail: t.holzinger@netaxis.qc

Thank you,
SAMPLE LETTER to send or adapt

Mr. Guy Chevrette, Ministre d'Etat des Ressources Naturelles
Ministre des Affaires Autochtones
Fax: 418/643-4318 and 418/646-4918

Dear Minister Chevrette,

We are writing to express our alarm over Hydro Quebec's intention to divert
the Pekanb and Carheil rivers, tributaries of the world famous Moise River.
A decision by the Province of Quebec to approve this diversion would go
against world opinion and subvert the democractic process in which all
sectors of the public condemned the proposal.

We are aware that the proposed diversions was condemned by your own agency,
the BAPE and was not to be approved without proper scrutiny by the public
and your agency, the BAPE. We fully support this position. We urge you to
suspend authorization of the St. Marguerite 3 (SM3) project, as the BAPE
recommended in 1993, until the impact studies suggested by them have been
completed, and until the modified proposal has been subject to public

We are aware that Mr. David Cliche, Quebec Minister of the Environment has
publicly supported the Moise watershed as a Heritage River. We urge you to
stand by this commitment and support the permanent protection of the Moisie
River, a pristine river by declaring it a Heritage River now.

To tamper with this great river, the jewel of the province merely to
provide cheap electricity would endanger the largest returning salmon
habitat. The Moise River is North America's greatest Atlantic salmon
spawning river with 10-45,000 Atlantic Salmon returning there every year.
The Snake River's salmon are endangered. Regulation does not work. This
can be confirmed by the Atlantic Salmon Federation and was a conclusion put
forward in the BAPE Report.

Please act immediately to declare the Moise a Heritage River to be
permanently protected before it is too late. Please keep it wild.



cc: Mr. David Cliche, Minister of the Environment Fax: 418/643-4143

Premier Lucien Bouchard Fax: 418/643-3924
Armand Mckenzie, Avocat Fax: 418/968-2370

NOTE: If you fax Armand Mckenzie, he will forward your faxes to the
following Innu Chiefs and Innu Vice-President. Please fax them if you are
able to:
Thadee Andre, Chief of Schefferville Fax: 418/585-3856
Jean-Charles Pietacho, Chief of Mingan Fax: 418/949-2085
Jules Wapistan, Chief of Natashquan Fax: 418/726-3606
Jerome Mestenapeo, Chief of Pakuashipi Fax: 418/947-2622
Jean-Baptiste Lalo, Chief of La Romaine Fax: 418/229-2921
Guy Bellefleur, Mamit Innuat Fax: 415/949-2416
Ghislain Picard, Vice-Chief AFNQL
Daniel Ashini, Vice-President, Innu Nation

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:12:43 -0700
From: Paul Tapley <>

Reply to: RE>>WASTE: URGENT INNU ALERT-stop Hydro Quebec

Mary B. Booth - - wrote>
>Maybe they should build a coal-fired power plant instead.

RE: "...Any day now a decision may be made to allow Hydro Quebec
to destroy the Moise River forever to fill U.S. energy needs.[and destroy the
Innu's land] Please act now before it is too late. Faxes create a paper
trail and your signature and address is vital"...
Mr. Guy Chevrette, Ministre d'Etat des Ressources Naturelles
Ministre des Affaires Autochtones
Fax: 418/643-4318 and 418/646-4918

Maybe we should reduce our consumption instead!!!

Don't you think that for a very small fraction (>1%?) of the cost to build any
kind of conventional power plant, "they" could retrofit every house and
bussiness in the service area needing the "juice" w/ energy saving devices?
Throw in a little education, and maybe some "alternative" energy sources, and
who knows WE just might create a sustainable future! With out displacing
Just ONCE I'd like to hear that Native Peoples and their rights to live on
THEIR land take priority over our need to blunder forward w/ our "dead end
form of progress".

Waste more, want more...


Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:09:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: WASTE: URGENT INNU ALERT-stop Hydro Quebec

Maybe they should build a coal-fired power plant instead.

Mary B. Booth -
The engineer asks: "How could I make your world work better?"
The physicist asks: "Why does your world work the way it does?"
The planetary geologist asks: "Have you filled your pee cup yet?"


Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:23:31 -0400
From: Hugh Potter <>
Subject: WASTE: URGENT INNU ALERT-stop Hydro Quebec

>Maybe they should build a coal-fired power plant instead.

Hydro Quebec's version of hydro power generation is not the "clean" scheme
that you might hope for - the landscape is typically very flat so huge areas
have to be flooded to provide sufficient water head to turn the turbines.
This massive flooding (e.g. James Bay dam floods an area the size of Wales)
causes the release of considerable quanitities of methyl-mercury as well as
CO2 and methane from the breakdown of waterlogged vegetation. These
ecological effects are bad enough in themselves but the human effects are
equally damaging - the land has never been ceded by the Innu and virtually
no compensation has been paid for the "use" of their traditional land.

I strongly encourage you all to send in your faxes.

Hugh Potter
Hugh Potter
PhD student - Geo-environmental Engineering
Dept. of Civil Engineering, McGill University
817 Sherbrooke St. West, Montreal
Quebec, H3A 2K6
Tel: (514) 845-1674
Fax: (514) 398-2623


Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:28:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: WASTE: URGENT INNU ALERT-stop Hydro Quebec

>Maybe they should build a coal-fired power plant instead.

Why don't they NOT build ANY power plants instead?

Students of Amory and Hunter Lovins know that it's not more capacity we need,
but more conservation...

David Orr
Pasadena, CA


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