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GreenYes Digest Tue, 21 Oct 97 Volume 97 : Issue 253

Today's Topics:

ALERT - White pigmented HDPE milk jugs -Reply
Correct to Alert on White Milk Jugs
export of our recyclables

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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:09:24 -0700
From: Gregg Foster <>

Perhaps because what I said was not that great?

Actually, I was asking if the change to colored HDPE was in response to =
the criticism that I have heard that the light getting into milk =
supposedly destroys vitamin A? Is that even true?

Gregg Foster

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From: Richard Anthony []
Sent: Friday, October 17, 1997 5:22 PM

Dear ?????????:
no message was tranmitted.
Rick Anthony

>>> Institute of the Northcoast
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:40:24 -0500
From: Pete Pasterz <Pete.Pasterz@USDWP.MSU.EDU>
Subject: ALERT - White pigmented HDPE milk jugs -Reply

This practice seemed to me to already be widespread when I visited
supermarkets in Atlanta
in April. Bill Sheehan, what are your observations on this in Northern GA?

Pete Pasterz

>>> RecycleWorlds <> 10/17/97 05:16pm >>>
Bruce Fortin of EnviroPlastic just called me to say that a major New England
dairy, H. P.
Hood, today announced that it will be introducing a white pigmented
natural-HDPE milk jug.
He said if Hood gains market share following introduction of their white
bottle, other dairies
can be expected to follow suit, and, potentially, explore other colors to
distinguish their brand
from the others.

Bruce stated that this would be economically devastating for HDPE
processors, upon whom
curbside programs depend, and hence upon local programs. The first immediate
would be in healthy markets when the price paid would be cut to 50-65% of
the present price
paid for unpigmented natural HDPE. This is the typical price spread between
clear (or more
accurately cloudy) natural HDPE used in milk and water jugs, and pigmented
HDPE used in such things as detergent and shampoos.

But, the second type of impact would be even more devastating, he said.
This is because,
when the HDPE commodity cycle turns down, past experience demonstrates that
only the
higher value natural HDPE market continues to move: it becomes all but
impossible to move
the pigmented stream.

That is to say, the natural HDPE stream, which is approximately 60% of the total
natural/copolymer HDPE market, would be devalued in the best of times and,
in the worst,
made unusable just like copolymer HDPE.

When contacted by Bruce, H.P. Hood indicated that it did not check with the
industry before making its decision and did not appear concerned about these
impacts on

Those who want to communicate their views to the dairy can write or call:

Mr. Peter Ross
H.P. Hood
90 Everett Avenue
Chelsea, Mass. 02150


Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:01:46 -0500
From: RecycleWorlds <>
Subject: Correct to Alert on White Milk Jugs

The telephone number of H. P. Hood diary listed on Friday's posting =
about their white pigmented milk bottle was in error. The correct =
number is 617-887-3000. Sorry about the error.

Peter Anderson


Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:48:19 -0700
From: Rosalind Risser Yasui <>
Subject: export of our recyclables

Does anyone know of recent reports about the export of recyclables to
foreign markets? How does this affect the prices U.S. manufacturers pay
for non-virgin feedstock?


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