John,
My comment comes not from a source
document, but from my personal work experiences with European waste experts
over the last ten years. I have had the good fortune to work with some
incredible people across the ocean, and some of them may be on this list (or
lurking). I remember discussing the bioreactor situation with them
almost five years ago and they thought it was funny how one large private
corporation (Waste Management Inc) was going to take America down a path that the EU had already decided wasn’t
a good choice.
And I’m not sure you’re right
that the EU Directive came before bioreactors, although I don’t have the
documents to back me up. Do you? And I agree with Helen… the EU
is aggresively shutting down the landfill as an option over the next 10 years
and the way they are doing it is to LIMIT (and nearly prohibit) the amount of
biodegradable material allowed to go in. Hmmm… I wonder why that was
their chosen strategy?
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: GreenYes@googlegroups.com
[mailto:GreenYes@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reindl, John
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008
7:08 AM
To: Helen Spiegelman; GreenYes
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: EU
conclusion on bioreactors
My sense is that the EU Directive
was promulgated before the concept of bioreactors was fully developed.
It seems to me not a rejection, per se, but
selection of a different path, when fewer pathes were available.
And, the EU still allows organics in
landfills, thus those landfills still have the long term issues related to
organics to deal with.
-----Original
Message-----
From: GreenYes@no.address
[mailto:GreenYes@no.address]On Behalf
Of Helen Spiegelman
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008
5:00 PM
To: GreenYes
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: EU conclusion
on bioreactors
Interesting question raised here: since the EU
Directive set limits on the % of organics in landfills doesn't this amount to a
de-facto rejection of bioreactor landfills?
H.
At 02:14 PM 2/11/2008, Reindl, John wrote:
Hi Eric ~
Could
you provide an official EU or other European agency document that shows that
they have examined and rejected bioreactors "in any and all forms and as
unsafe and unable to keep pollution from the environment"?
I
served on a committee that looked at accelerating the time frame at which waste
disposal sites would degrade material in them and looked at what was going on
in the EU, but was not fortunate enough to come up with any references
that included that conclusion.
Thanks
much,
John
-----Original Message-----
From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address]On
Behalf Of Eric Lombardi
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008
12:02 PM
To: pdunn@no.address;
'GreenYes'
Subject:
[GreenYes] Re: Michigan bill could repeal landfill ban on yard waste
Never mind that Europe
looked at bioreactors long ago and rejected them in any and all forms as unsafe
and unable to keep pollution from the environment.
Eric
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