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[GreenYes] Re: Getting Haulers to Recycle More

Re: [GreenYes] Re: Getting Haulers to Recycle MoreDavid

The reason in trying to keep their sales a secret is a concern to most retailers, using it to not recycle is ludicrous

I once had a sales rep for a hauler bet me that he could tell me the weekly sales of our stores within a few thousand dollars. I picked 10 randomly and in 8 out of 10 stores he was right on. I used an average sales per tonne of waste generated figure that unfortunately did not deviate over the years and was accurate to within a few tonnes per year as to waste\recycling generated.

The fact that retailers even believe that there information regarding their performance both good and bad is secret is ridiculous. There are many ways, all legal, that you can ascertain the sales performance of any given retail outlet. The most common and effective one is to simply walk into the store and ask. It is amazing how much information employees will share if you just ask them

My former employer has shared their recycling recovery information for years and despite exposure of this secret information continues to be one of the most successful food retailers in the province of British Columbia

Dennis Kinsey
Common Ground Solutions Ltd

----- Original Message -----
From: David Biddle
To: Mike Morin ; Nancy Poh ; Brad.Wolbert@no.address
Cc: greenyes@no.address ; Cynthia.Moore@no.address
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:04 AM
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Getting Haulers to Recycle More

Many large chains fight like crazy to keep their cardboard recycling data secret, or at least confidential, because they feel it is a direct indicator of how well (or not well) their stores are doing and they don't want their competition to know. A number of companies even keep baled cardboard inside until the time of pickup and it's often under cover of darkness.

David Biddle, Executive Director
Greater Philadelphia Commercial Recycling Council
P.O. Box 4037
Philadelphia, PA 19118

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on 3/3/07 5:54 AM, Mike Morin at mikemorin@no.address wrote:

The Capitalist Econometric Growth Model judges their success by the amount of trash that they generate.

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Mike Morin

----- Original Message -----

From: Nancy Poh <mailto:nancypoh@no.address>

To: Brad.Wolbert@no.address

Cc: greenyes@no.address ; Cynthia.Moore@no.address ; Cynthia.Moore@no.address

Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:29 AM

Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Getting Haulers to Recycle More

If the haulers cannot get their customers to recycle, a good way to get around it is through the church or any non profit organization as they are always looking for ways to raise funds. Eg, if a religious body is able to encourage their members to collect and bring recyclable waste at least once a month for the purpose of raising fund there should be some responses. The haulers can be there to collect the recyclable waste and pass out educational material on recycling.

This is how members of the following religious body is raising fund in our neighbourhood. They get a good deal from a recycling firm and volunteer to sort recyclable waste delivered by residents to a designated park in the neighbourhood every 3rd Sunday of the month.


<-----Original Message----->
>From: Wolbert, Brad - DNR [Brad.Wolbert@no.address]
>Sent: 3/3/2007 1:20:48 AM
>To: greenyes@no.address
>Cc: Cynthia.Moore@no.address;Cynthia.Moore@no.address
>Subject: Re: [GreenYes] Re: Getting Haulers to Recycle More
>Gretchen -- Wisconsin has long had a requirement on its books that licensed
>waste haulers must comply with the statutory prohibitions on land disposal of
>items ranging from lead-acid batteries, waste oil, yard waste and major
>appliances (absolute bans) to newspaper, cardboard, magazines, office paper,
>tires, and bottles and cans (except for incidental amounts originating from a
>region with an effective recycling program). Relevant statute is s. 287.07,
>Wis. Stats.:
>In addition, Wisconsin recently instituted a rule requiring licensed waste
>haulers to notify their customers in writing at the time services begin, and at
>least once per year therafter, of the need to comply with state and local laws
>requiring all residential and commercial generators to recycle. We have
>enforced this requirement in several instances where notification was not being
>made. Haulers are also required by law to provide municipalities with weights
>of recyclable materials collected from that municipality, maintain the
>separation and cleanliness of collected recyclables, and produce documentation
>that collected recyclables have been delivered to brokers, processors or end
>users upon request by the Department. Haulers are NOT required, currently, to
>"police" their customers by examining waste loads and enforcing the recycling
>rules on their clients. (In general, they won't pick up a major appliance
>because they know the landfill will refuse disposal. Unfortunately, the same
>can't be said about a load with a lot of cardboard or beverage containers.)
>The hauler rules are at s. NR 502.06, Wisconsin Administrative Code:
>Brad Wolbert - Hydrogeologist
>Wisconsin DNR
>At 10:17 AM 3/1/2007, Brewer, Gretchen (DEP) wrote:
>MassDEP is conducting a brief informal survey of states, counties and
>municipalities that regulate, permit, or have voluntary agreements with solid
>waste and recycling haulers aimed at getting haulers and their customers,
>especially commercial generators, to recycle more. What are the requirements or
>choices haulers have within these models relative to: outreach and education to
>customers on recycling requirements; providing incentives (such as rebates and
>revenue/profit sharing based on commodity sales); reporting to customers and/or
>agencies on amounts recycled, composted, or trashed; providing recycling
>services (such as parallel access); and any other thoughts. We are currently
>working on exploring the possibility of a voluntary certification program for
>haulers and these examples would be helpful for us. Thanks.
>Gretchen Brewer
>Bureau of Waste Prevention
>Planning & Evaluation
>One Winter St, 8 fl
>Boston, MA 02108

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