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[GreenYes] Re: Recycling isn't B*llsh*t

It seems that most of recycling naysayers in NYC have seen this Penn & Teller episode, and Iâm so glad to finally be able to see it! I agree, donât give it more air time, but advocates should watch it and be prepared to recount their statements.

Anyone have a point-by-point rebuttal to share?

Christina Salvi
Great Forest, Inc.
2014 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10035
Tel: (212) 779-4757
Fax: (212) 779-8044


From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf Of kpulse@no.address
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:35 AM
To: Tom Rhodes
Cc: Keith Ripley; Alan Muller; Camille Armantrout; Greenyes
Subject: [GreenYes] Recycling isn't B*llsh*t

Another thought,

We can all blog and we can spread the correct information out there! The only thing, DO NOT mention this Penn and Teller thing AT ALL! No reason to give them anymore "airtime".

Karen Pulse

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Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Penn and Teller Recycling is B*llsh*t
From: "Tom Rhodes" <tom.rhodes@no.address>
Date: Tue, November 28, 2006 6:07 am
To: "Keith Ripley" <vze3gxms@no.address>, "Alan Muller"
<amuller@no.address>, "Camille Armantrout" <bobandcamille@no.address>,
"Greenyes" <GreenYes@no.address>

Beloved GreenYes Family,

My father had a saying............, "The more you stir in {dung}, the worse it will stink"

I fear that giving view and comment to the outrageous, misinformed anti-recycling video will help propagate it over the Internet. Just let Penn and Teller drown in their own filth.

My 2-cents..........

Penn and Teller eschew it

They told the world, ?don?t do it?

Recycling, they say

Is a waste of your day

But the recyclers just HAD to view it!

Best always,

Tom Rhodes


From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf Of Keith Ripley
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:31 AM
To: 'Alan Muller'; 'Camille Armantrout'; 'Greenyes'
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Penn and Teller Recycling is B*llsh*t

Unfortunately, in this age of blogs and Utube and GoggleVideo it?s not getting lost on the Web ? rather, it is getting found. Check this blog?s declaration:


Make Work

Well now; this is pretty funny. Hilarious even. I've seen most of their four seasons of episodes, but this one from season two on recycling got by me.

And of course, it includes the entire clip embedded from GoogleVideo. :-(


Sr. Keith E. Ripley

Temas Actuales LLC

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From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf Of Alan Muller
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:22 PM
To: Camille Armantrout; Greenyes
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Penn and Teller Recycling is B*llsh*t

At 09:58 AM 11/27/2006 -0800, Camille Armantrout wrote:

What a foul video THAT was! Rife with abusive language and misinformation. They left out most of the important statistics. But what can you expect from a couple of angry losers who also missed the fact that the actor in the Crying Indian commercial was actually Caucasian <>

What a treat to watch that. To add to the enjoyment, note this ( <>


Penn & Teller: Bullshit -(3)
Outstanding Reality Program
Outstanding Picture Editing for nonfiction programming
Outstanding Writing for Nonfiction programming

Disregarding all the foul language & etc., the arguments (if one can call them that) are pretty much the standard ones and have been emitted around here by Vasuki and his Delaware Solid Waste Authority for a long time. It would be interesting to know how this "show" on this topic came about and what interests really fed them the content.


Hopefully, the video will stay lost on the Web with only a handful of viewers, most of them folks like us who know better.


Well, here?s at least one blog I ran across that swallowed it as gospel:




Sr. Keith Edward Ripley

Temas Actuales LLC

e-mail: keith.ripley@no.address


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