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Blair, Are you going to Atlanta? If so we can talk about the two bins distribution there? Susan Hubbard CEO Eureka Recycling 2828 Kennedy St., NE Minneapolis, MN 55413 (651)222-7678 (612)623-3277 www.eurekarecycling.org Waste is Preventable Not Inevitable -----Original Message----- From: GreenYes group [mailto:noreply@no.address] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:26 AM To: GreenYes digest subscribers Subject: 4 new messages in 3 topics - digest GreenYes http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes GreenYes@no.address Today's topics: * Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and Best Uses - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/91db30614e54e10 c * NCRA's Introduction to Recycling Class - Coming Soon to SF and LA! - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/7201def18831344 3 * Implementing two stream program and introducing a second bin in the process - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/c8ec603d2e4bcc0 8 ============================================================================ == TOPIC: Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and Best Uses http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/91db30614e54e10 c ============================================================================ == == 1 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Sep 28 2006 7:17 am From: Alan Muller Gary, I am in general agreement with the rank ordering of items. I think it would be useful to have a background document explaining the basis for the ordering. For example, what is the difference between "Landfill in "bioreactor" designed without cost constraints" and WITH cost constraints? Everything in the real world has costs constraints... What do we really mean here? In my own mind, I tend to classify processes as potentially vs not potentially acceptable. In Delaware, responding to persistent incineration promotion (originating with the crank Vasuki), there has been debate and misunderstanding over whether incineration should be "off the table," vs whether one has to look at it in order to *appear* objective and reasonable, vs those who consider this a real option. Does including incineration (of mixed garbage) in a hierarchy amount to taking sides in this sort of debate? Are some approaches "not potentially acceptable?" To offer another (silly) example, a waste management option seriously considered by some Delaware households, and adopted by some of these, is to put their wastes in green poly bags and toss them by the side of the road for someone else (DOT crews and chain gangs) to pick up or for critters to scatter. For some reason this "option" is never brought up by waste managers and wonks but it is a live option for the "customer." Alan At 05:05 PM 9/27/2006 -0700, Gary Liss wrote: >Apologies for Cross-Postings > >I've just drafted the attached Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and >Best Use. I've also pasted it into the website of the Zero Waste >Communities Yahoo Group, at: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZeroWasteCommunities/files/. You may >need to join the Yahoo group to access it. To do so, email >ZeroWasteCommunities-subscribe@no.address or go to >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZeroWasteCommunities/ > >This is based on the Environmental Hierarchy of Waste Management & >Energy Production Methods / Fuels / Technologies, prepared by Mike >Wall of the Energy Justice Network, 215-743-4884, ><mailto:catalyst@no.address>catalyst@no.address, >www.energyjustice.net. To get his chart, go to: >http://www.energyjustice.net/technologies.pdf > >This is still in DRAFT form. I'd like you to review and comment on >it. Please send me your comments directly in either WORD tracking >tool, or as general email comments. > >I'm particularly interested in hearing if there are major >issues/practices missing, and if there should be a different order >provided for any particular item. > >Thanks for your anticipated cooperation! > >Gary > >Gary Liss >916-652-7850 >Fax: 916-652-0485 >www.garyliss.com >> Alan Muller, Executive Director Green Delaware Box 69 Port Penn, DE 19731 USA (302)834-3466 fax (302)836-3005 greendel@no.address www.greendel.org == 2 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Sep 28 2006 11:50 am From: ricanthony@no.address I agree with Alan Muller on this. I will go so far to say that i think incineration and landfill as well as littering should be off the table as polluting methodologies. We should focus on managing resources in our hierarchy. Rick -----Original Message----- From: amuller@no.address To: gary@no.address; GreenYes@no.address Cc: marlenerayner@no.address Sent: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 4:17 AM Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and Best Uses Gary, I am in general agreement with the rank ordering of items. I think it would be useful to have a background document explaining the basis for the ordering. For example, what is the difference between "Landfill in ?bioreactor? designed without cost constraints" and WITH cost constraints? Everything in the real world has costs constraints... What do we really mean here? In my own mind, I tend to classify processes as potentially vs not potentially acceptable. In Delaware, responding to persistent incineration promotion (originating with the crank Vasuki), there has been debate and misunderstanding over whether incineration should be "off the table," vs whether one has to look at it in order to *appear* objective and reasonable, vs those who consider this a real option. Does including incineration (of mixed garbage) in a hierarchy amount to taking sides in this sort of debate? Are some approaches "not potentially acceptable?" To offer another (silly) example, a waste management option seriously considered by some Delaware households, and adopted by some of these, is to put their wastes in green poly bags and toss them by the side of the road for someone else (DOT crews and chain gangs) to pick up or for critters to scatter. For some reason this "option" is never brought up by waste managers and wonks but it is a live option for the "customer." Alan At 05:05 PM 9/27/2006 -0700, Gary Liss wrote: Apologies for Cross-Postings I've just drafted the attached Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and Best Use. I've also pasted it into the website of the Zero Waste Communities Yahoo Group, at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZeroWasteCommunities/files/. You may need to join the Yahoo group to access it. To do so, email ZeroWasteCommunities-subscribe@no.address or go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZeroWasteCommunities/ This is based on the Environmental Hierarchy of Waste Management & Energy Production Methods / Fuels / Technologies, prepared by Mike Wall of the Energy Justice Network, 215-743-4884, catalyst@no.address, www.energyjustice.net. To get his chart, go to: http://www.energyjustice.net/technologies.pdf This is still in DRAFT form. I'd like you to review and comment on it. Please send me your comments directly in either WORD tracking tool, or as general email comments. I'm particularly interested in hearing if there are major issues/practices missing, and if there should be a different order provided for any particular item. Thanks for your anticipated cooperation! Gary Gary Liss 916-652-7850 Fax: 916-652-0485 www.garyliss.com Alan Muller, Executive Director Green Delaware Box 69 Port Penn, DE 19731 USA (302)834-3466 fax (302)836-3005 greendel@no.address www.greendel.org ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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IN SAN FRANCISCO: October 23-25, 2006 (Monday - Wednesday) 8:30 AM - 3:15 PM SANITARY FILL CLASSROOM 401 Tunnel Road, San Francisco 94134 (at Bayshore CalTrain Station) Free parking and available public transit IN LOS ANGELES: November 13-15, 2006 (Monday - Wednesday) 8:30 AM - 3:15 PM Los Angeles Conservation Corps (LACC) 2824 South Main Street, Los Angeles 90007 COST: $45 for all materials (lunch not included). **Scholarships now available for students! Contact ncra@no.address for details.** Register Online at http://www.ncrarecycles.org/itr/itr.html WHY THIS COURSE? Sometimes our own recycling work is moving forward so fast that we may lack the time, skills, or appropriate context to provide needed training or orientation to newcomers or decisionmakers. Thus, NCRA offers this inexpensive three-day course at a convenient location to help train people who would like a quick overview of the current recycling industry and its choice-points for future development. WHO SHOULD ATTEND? The course is designed for newcomers to the recycling field and is an ideal orientation for many people such as: entry-level program assistants, interns, professionals from other fields, members of local advisory committees, city council members and staff, members of the board of supervisors, activists, solid-waste handlers, recycling program managers and staff. CURRICULUM: DAYS 1 & 2 KEY TERMS IN RECYCLING * Introductory survey: what do you currently know about recycling * Basic terms: three Rs, the IWM hierarchy, and "to discard or to dispose?" BASIC CONCEPTS IN RECYCLING * The roles of cycles in ecosystems and closing the materials loop * How the materials cycle got broken * How we recognized our shortcomings * Conceptualizing the future: hierarchy * The failure of recycling's competitors: landfills and incinerators * Market share of competing ventures - how fast things change * The eight reasons we recycle * Categorizing recyclables: the twelve master categories * How recycling works: drop-off, buyback, curbside * Processing mixed materials vs. source-separated recycling * The five types of facilities that sort and process materials * Encouraging source separation-type recycling: the four policy options * Five meanings of "source reduction" * Three levels/types of recycling * Developing markets and procuring recycled products * Forming new ventures: the six areas of activity * Recycling's role in climate change * Overview of commonly used equipment DAY 3 CALIFORNIA'S REGULATORY CONTEXT: What the California Integrated Waste Management Board is, how it operates, what it requires of local governments, how local public agencies stay out of trouble, the level of enforcement, managing data for reports, etc. KNOW YOUR MATERIALS Hands-on demonstrations of basic market grades of materials: metal, glass, paper, plastic, wood, etc. EQUIPMENT SLIDE SHOW Independent learning: paper and video resources INDEPENDENT LEARNING Registrant will be advised to consult "Introduction to Recycling," which is posted on NCRA's web site, http://www.ncrarecycles.org. The majority of the presenters will be NCRA members and others working in the recycling field. Most of the classroom day will be spent listening to guest speakers and completing exercises designed to enhance the basic concepts in the field. INSTRUCTORS Under the general leadership of Arthur Boone, NCRA's Educational Chairperson, a series of recycling industry leaders will address specific topics. Register Online at http://www.ncrarecycles.org/itr/itr.html ============================================================================ == TOPIC: Implementing two stream program and introducing a second bin in the process http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/c8ec603d2e4bcc0 8 ============================================================================ == == 1 of 1 == Date: Thurs, Sep 28 2006 5:47 pm From: "Blair Pollock" Hi, we here in Orange Co. NC are on the cusp on introducing a second 18 gallon bin to all the 30,000 households on our urban & rural curbside recycling programs and seek the guidance and wisdom of those who have come before on how to best do this particularly regarding: Opt-out programs, not everyone may WANT or NEED a second bin, they can effectively bag their paper - how to manage opt outs? Best way to do education & outreach, we're thinking a mailer in advance, followed by the bin (with or without a brochure in it?) Labeling the bin: we are thinking of giving out a single 'universal' label saying "You can put all PAPER in ONE BIN and all cans n Bottles in the OTHER BIN. WE DON'T CARE which as long as you separate. Is that a good way or give two labels, one for their existing bin and one for the new one? Any other info you could tell us about your experience w/ implementing two stream using a second bin would help Thanks. Blair L. Pollock Orange County Solid Waste Planner (919) 968-2788 (919) 932-2900 fax PO Box 17177 Chapel Hill NC 27516-7177 Only 1 in 5 plastic bottles is now recycled in Orange County. ============================================================================ == You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GreenYes" group. To post to this group, send email to GreenYes@no.address or visit http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes To unsubscribe from this group, send email to GreenYes-unsubscribe@no.address To change the way you get mail from this group, visit: http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/subscribe To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@no.address ============================================================================ == Google Groups: http://groups.google.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GreenYes" group. 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