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Not good science!? Do you know who Tim Barnett is, what his qualifications are and the data the study is based on? I sincerely hope your comment wasn't serious. The Barnett paper is available only to those with Science subscriptions, but see http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=124 and http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=148. -- Steve Bloom > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Arkwright,Jr [mailto:powerbysun@no.address] > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:34 AM > To: GreenYes > Subject: Re: [greenyes] Climate Disruption - New Confirmation from Ocean > Measurements > > > As bush would but it - this is not good science. Even > if it was a NASA scientist making the report it would > not be good enough science. > Be the way, what is good science any ways? GOOD GOD I > BEEN bushTISIZED!!! > > --- Peter Anderson <anderson@no.address> wrote: > > > UPI in the WASHINGTON TIMES > > > > Climate: Ocean warming supports models > > > > > > By Dan Whipple > > > > Boulder, CO, Jun. 6 (UPI) -- Clear evidence of > > human-produced warming in the > > oceans verifies some of the most important > > predictions of climate models, > > suggesting it is time for action instead of argument > > about the existence of > > greenhouse warming, according to a paper by Scripps > > Institution of > > Oceanography scientists. > > > > A paper appearing in the June 3 issue of the journal > > Science by Tim Barnett, > > a marine physicist at Scripps, and colleagues > > reported that a strong warming > > signal has penetrated the world's oceans over the > > last 40 years that cannot > > be explained by natural internal climate variability > > or by solar or volcanic > > forcings -- but is consistent with human causes. > > > > "The thing that is nice about our deal is that we > > found that most of the > > heat increase has gone into the oceans, and the > > oceans are the flywheel of > > the global climate system," Barnett told UPI's > > Climate. "We looked at where > > the biggest signal was. If your models are going to > > be any good, you'd like > > to get that one right -- and they sure did." > > > > Barnett's group found a close agreement between > > observed warming signals in > > the oceans and the predictions of two prominent > > climate models: one called > > the Parallel Climate Model used by the National > > Center for Atmospheric > > Research in Boulder, Colo., and one used by > > Britain's Hadley Centre in > > Exeter. > > The results indicate the climate models can be > > trusted for any important > > predictions. > > > > "Since the historical changes have been well > > simulated, future changes > > predicted by these global models are apt to be > > reasonably good, at least out > > to, say, 20 or 30 years into the future," the paper > > said, although Barnett > > told Climate that the models' accuracy farther out, > > to 2050, for example, is > > less reliable. > > Nevertheless, he said, the results are strong enough > > to settle the argument > > about whether human activity is causing current > > warming. > > > > "... > > "... > > "... > > "... > > > > The paper by Barnett and colleagues comes on the > > heels of another paper in > > Science a few weeks ago that found Earth is > > absorbing considerably more > > energy from the sun than it is emitting back into > > space. That paper, by > > James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute > > for Space Studies, and > > colleagues found Earth's heat balance has shifted > > substantially. Based both > > on models and observations, they concluded the > > planet can expect global > > warming of an average of 0.6 degrees Celsius (1.1 > > degrees Fahrenheit), even > > if carbon-dioxide emissions into the atmosphere were > > curtailed immediately. > > > > "This energy imbalance is the 'smoking gun' that we > > have been looking for," > > Hansen said in a news release. "It shows that our > > estimates of the > > human-made and natural climate forcing agents are > > about right, and they are > > driving the Earth toward a warmer climate." > > > > The two papers are complementary. Together, they > > provide strong verification > > of at least the larger mid-time-scale predictions of > > the climate models. > > "The statistical significance of these results is > > far too strong to be > > merely dismissed and should wipe out much of the > > uncertainty about the > > reality of global warming," Barnett said. > > > > "... > > "... > > > > The ocean-warming research results are strong > > enough, Barnett thinks, along > > with the other recent research, to shift the debate > > away from whether > > human-induced climate change is occurring. > > > > "We need to do something about it," he said. "We > > need leadership. There are > > a lot of things that can be done, and we're doing > > none of them, as a > > country. If they think they've got Social Security > > problems in 2041, wait > > until they see what this one looks like." > > > > FOR FULL ARTICLE > > > http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20050606-111933-8954r.htm > > _________________________ > > Peter Anderson, President > > RECYCLEWORLDS CONSULTING > > 4513 Vernon Blvd. Suite 15 > > Madison, WI 53705-4964 > > Ph: (608) 231-1100 > > Fax: (608) 233-0011 > > Cell: (608) 698-1314 > > eMail: anderson@no.address > > web: www.recycleworlds.net > > > > CONFIDENTIAL > > This message, and all attachments thereto, > > is covered by the Electronic Communications > > Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C., Sections 2510-2521. > > This message is CONFIDENTIAL. If you are > > not the intended recipient of this message, > > then any retention, dissemination, distribution > > or copying of this communication is strictly > > prohibited. 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