RE: [greenyes] Portola Valley System

["Eric Lombardi" <eric@no.address>]

Richard and others interested in this topic,

I've recently learned about a similar program (MSW co-composting with
biosolids and trash) in Nantucket by a firm called Waste Options.  Does
anyone know this project or this company?

Eric


Eric Lombardi
Executive Director
Eco-Cycle, Inc
Boulder, CO
303-444-6634
www.ecocycle.org
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Gertman [mailto:richard@no.address] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:22 PM
To: greenyes@no.address
Subject: [greenyes] Portola Valley System 

I believe the quality of the compost from Portola Valley would meet the
concerns raised by Peter Anderson.  First, all of the compost is
marketed,
mostly to local landscapers and nurseries, with only a small residue to
ag
lands.

I have lots of photos from the Z-Best site, the first showing the
process,
the material pre-screening, and post-screening.  I would be willing to
send
them to anyone that is interested, but I understand that I can't post
photos
on GreenYes.

Further, I would say that the Portola Valley system has an advantage
over
the system described by Peter -- Everything is collected in a single
pass
with a single truck, there is no need to run the second truck
once-a-month
to collect the other dry material.

Wouldn't it be fun if people had to pay as much to trash something as
they
did to buy it!  This would certainly encourage better buying habits and
reuse/repair of items.
Richard Gertman
Environmental Planning Consultants
1885 The Alameda, Suite 120
San Jose, CA 95126-1732
408-249-0691
richard@no.address
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Anderson" <anderson@no.address>
To: "GreenYes" <greenyes@no.address>
Cc: "Richard Gertman" <richard@no.address>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:39 AM
Subject: [greenyes] System for Curbside Composting


> I hear Rich Gertman's article and follow on explanation for the
expanded
> recycling program he developed for Portola Valley.
>
> As Rich mentions, whenever you're trying to do something innovative
for a
> small community, you're subject to whatever infrastructure is already
> around, because no one is likely to make major investments for a small
> return.
>
> When we look to the broader future going forward for a wider audience
and
> without those constraints that Portola Valley faced, I share Eric's
concerns
> that the composting that is going on bears too close a ressemblance to
mixed
> waste processing, and until I see if for myself, I find it exceedingly
> difficult to conceive of it producing a reliable compost quality
material
> that can be marketed.
>
> As I've mentioned in prior postings, pending careful pilot
demonstrations
> for validation, I tend to think that the most effective and economical
> approach would divide the baby differently.
>
> Remembering that most of the organic fraction in our waste stream is
paper,
> and only a third of that, food scraps, the total compostables are more
than
> 60% of what's trashed in America (tho not CA), which, were it
composted
and
> combined with the recyclable diversion would exceed 75% of waste
generation,
> we could have a weekly split truck for recyclables and compostables,
leaving
> the inert residues for monthly collection. That would save 3 out of 4
trash
> hauls and internalize an incentive for folks to properly separate all
of
> their organics from the trash to avoid having it hang around for a
month.
>
> Admittedly I don't have the hard numbers and demonstration of
feasibility
> yet, but that's where I suspect the optimal future lies.
>
>
> Peter
> ______________________________
> Peter Anderson
> RECYCLEWORLDS CONSULTING Corp
> 4513 Vernon Blvd. Suite 15
> Madison, WI 53705
> Ph:    (608) 231-1100
> Fax:   (608) 233-0011
> Cell    (608) 438-9062
> email: anderson@no.address
>
>
>
>
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