Re: [GRRN] Refillables

Bill Carter (bcarter0@flash.net)
Sun, 23 May 1999 23:09:08 -0500

Jerry Powell shared with me this source of documentation for lower beverage
sales in deposit states:
>>>>>>
... The best source of data on the sales loss was a study by Bill Shireman
(formerly of Californians Against Waste, now of Global Futures) that was
about as comprehensive a look as I can remember. Also, beer sales data for
neighboring states (typically publicly available data because of liquor tax
receipts) supports the finding. ...
>>>>>>
One of the arguments against local deposit laws I've heard is the potential
that too many people would find ways to buy the beverages from "across the
border" in non-deposit territory simply to avoid the unwanted deposit
and/or to try to defraud the deposit system with non-deposit containers.
How much of the difference in beverage sales levels between deposit and
non-deposit states might be attributable to such cross-border purchasing?
Did any of the studies/sources look at that possiblility? If this is the
problem, then it would disappear if all states had deposits and no one
could "run for the border."

--Bill

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> From: Helen Spiegelman <helens@axionet.com>
> To: RicAnthony@aol.com; bcarter0@flash.net; greenyes@earthsystems.org
> Subject: Re: [GRRN] Refillables
> Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 6:20 PM
>
> At 01:55 PM 5/21/99 EDT, RicAnthony@aol.com wrote:
>
> > a representative of the Beer Industry told that they fought this >type
of
> legislation because beer sales in Bottle Bill States were lower than >in
> non-Bottle Bill States.
>
> I would like to see the numbers. My experience is that claims like this
> from the beverage industries (who are fighting bottle bills) are the most
> frequently cited "literature" connecting sales and deposits. Until the
> beverage companies substantiate these claims, I remain skeptical....
> H.
>
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