I'm surprised at your pessimism about the role of independent haulers in the 
future.
If WMI and Allied have about 50% of the market, where is the rest of the 
market?
If WMI, Allied and other multinationals have to get 30-35% ROI to be 
"profitable" for Wall Street, and independents would be satisfied with 
10-15%, then there seems to be a huge opportunity for independents to grow.  
If cities continue to require aggressive recycling services be provided, then 
partnerships of waste haulers and reuse, recycling and composting companies 
should be able to compete well.
If cities separated their long-term garbage disposal requirements from their 
garbage and recycling service requirements, they could stimulate this type of 
entrepreneurial activity.
Once again, it's up to localities to define what is economic for the private 
sector.
Gary Liss
916-652-7850
Fax: 916-652-0485
In a message dated 4/12/99 2:49:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RJayW2@aol.com 
writes:
<< I don't think cities will provide much help in preserving free enterprise 
in 
 recycling.  As a (perhaps) unintended consequence of AB 939, cities 
 throughout the state have forsaken their home-grown waste removal companies 
 and small recyclers in favor of contracting out to large national firms with 
 headquarters elsewhere.  These firms have spent the 1990s lobbying city 
 councils, warning that only large companies could guarantee cities meet AB 
 939 recycling levels of 25% by 1995 and 50% by 2000.  Revenues derived from 
 waste hauling, landfilling and the marketing of recyclable materials are 
 leaving California for corporate headquarters in places like Illinois, Texas 
 and Arizona.  
 
 I doubt this trend can be reversed now.  There aren't enough small haulers 
 left to give the big nationals a run for their money and even if they could, 
 most city councils, afraid of AB 939 monetary sanctions, wouldn't give them 
 the opportunity.
  >>