Re: [GRRN] Plastic shopping bags

Myra Nissen (myracycl@inreach.com)
Wed, 02 Dec 1998 14:25:51 -0800


Megan,

Things don't really biodegrate in modern sanitary landfills. Paper vs.
plastic issue is a complex one. Paper bags are recyclable, but the paper
markets are poor at this time. Reusable bags are better, even if it is
just the paper and plastic ones given at the store.

Myra

Megan Fleming wrote:
>
> ======== Original Message ========
> Jeff,
>
> My understanding of this situation, in CA anyway, is that 1) it is
> difficult to prove that the bags are being recycled at all and not
> thrown away; 2) if they do recycle them, it is very costly because of
> the time it takes for sorting and processing: Any food debris is a
> contaminant. Consumers are not good about removing contaminants before
> recycling. Consumers drop off all of their plastic bags, not just the
> ones generated from the store offering the program--not all plastic bags
> are made out of the same polymer and are not compatible for processing
> together. 3) I know that there have been a number of people who have
> spotted plastic bags from the store recycling bins in the dumpsters
> behind the stores.
>
> But my information is hearsay. I know there are people out there who may
> have more direct information for you. The company I work for collects
> and market film plastic from post-industrial uses -- we experience the
> same sorts of problems with commingling of polymers and contamination.
>
> Myra Nissen
> The Sutta Co.
> 1221 Third St.
> Oakland, CA 94607
> myracycl@inreach.com
> http://www.sutta.com
>
> Jeff Surfus wrote:
> >
> > Greenyes readers:
> >
> > I know this has been discussed before, but I am writing an article about
> > this problem so I need some info if anyone can provide it.
> >
> > Recently, the recycling stations here in Southeast Michigan have stopped
> > accepting any plastic shopping bags. The grocery stores used to have bins
> > where empties could be dropped off for recycling. All of this has
> stopped.
> > When questioned about this, the standard line the grocery stores or
> > recycling center operators use is that there is no recycling market for
> > these bags anymore.
> >
> > My questions are:
> >
> > Why has the market dried up (or was there ever a market to begin with)?
> > Once again, have we been sold a bill of goods by the plastics industry as
> to
> > the recylability of these bags?
> >
> > What can be done with these bags, short of throwing them away, or saving
> and
> > reusing them over and over?
> >
> > The bottom line is what can the everyday consumer do with these bags?
> > Unless it can be made really easy for consumers to recycle (e.g. a drop
> off
> > bin right inside the grocery store), they are going to throw the bags
> away.
> >
> > Any thoughts or ideas?
> >
> > Jeff Surfus
> >
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> ======== Fwd by: Megan Fleming ========
> Isn't it just easier to ask for paper, rather than plastic? Aside from the
> convenient handle attached to plastic bags, aren't there better markets for
> paper bags? And if they do get tossed in the garbage, don't they biodegrade
> better?
>
> Megan Fleming
>
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