GreenYes Digest V97 #241

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GreenYes Digest Tue, 7 Oct 97 Volume 97 : Issue 241

Today's Topics:
[Fwd: Mail failure]
California's Recycling Market Development Zones
Computer recycling -- ur
Computer recycling -- urgent need (3 msgs)
CRRA's Agenda for New Millennium on Web
Double-sided printing
looking for used Equipment-centrifuges, dryers & tanks (2 msgs)
message problems (2 msgs)
NEW Federal Junk Mail Law
New Recycling Goal for Pennsylvania
pyrolysis synonyms and bugs
Sustainability Resources Inquiry
The real world in NYC
used equipment: used RO membrane housings
WASTE: Computer recycling -- urgent need (2 msgs)

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:12:38 -0700
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Let me know if there is a fix.

Myra
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:05:49 -0700
From: "Adams, Jesse" <jadams@CIWMB.ca.gov>
Subject: California's Recycling Market Development Zones

Mehrdad,

For info on the California Integrated Waste Management Board's RMDZ
Program, take a look at the Board's homepage at
http://www.ciwmb.ca.gov/

Jesse
jadams@ciwmb.ca.gov
California Integrated Waste Management Board
8800 Cal Center Drive M-5
Sacramento, CA 95826
(916) 255-2489 fax (916) 255-2574

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:53:10 -0700
From: Paul Tapley <Paul.Tapley@sonoma.edu>
Subject: Computer recycling -- ur

Reply to: RE>Computer recycling -- urgent need

Steve,

US EPA funded a series of four booklets (aprox. 50pgs.) on reuse as an
important economic development and waste reduction strategy. These were
produced by the Institute For Local Self Reliance, and were just released in
the last couple of months. (I don't have a copy, but I coppied some pages out
of the one I saw) The one you want is, "Plug Into Electronics Reuse" by Brenda
Plat and Jennifer Hyde. This is a great resource, the appendix has almost
three full pages of one liner contacts (156 of them) for "Electrinocs Reuse
and Recycling Operations" nation wide.

If you can't find it, and still need more options, contact me and I will FAX
you the three pages.

The other booklets are on pallets, textiles, and everyday items...

Paul Tapley - Recycling Coordinator
Sonoma State Univ. 707.664.2929

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:44:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: s_hammer@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Computer recycling -- urgent need

A Bronx-based company recently contacted me seeking assistance in the
"proper" disposal or reuse of a great deal of old computer equipment. The
material must be out of their facility by October 15th.

They have approximately 20-25 pallets full of old B/W monitors, PC Jrs,
286s, 386s, and some 486s. They also have a number of older model laser
printers, and a lot of dot matrix printers. Some of the equipment still
works, but I can't hazard a guess as to whether its's 10% of the items or
80% of the items.

Does anyone have any ideas for them?

Thanks.

Steve Hammer
Hammer Environmental Consulting
5294 Sycamore Ave.
Bronx, NY 10471
(718) 548-5285

Steve Hammer
Hammer Environmental Consulting
5294 Sycamore Ave.
Bronx, NY 10471
tel: (718) 548-5285
fax: (718) 548-5257
s_hammer@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:27:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Roger M. Guttentag" <rgutten@concentric.net>
Subject: Computer recycling -- urgent need

>Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 10:20:15
>To: s_hammer@ix.netcom.com
>From: "Roger M. Guttentag" <rgutten@mail.concentric.net>
>Subject: Re: Computer recycling -- urgent need
>
>Dear Steve:
>
>I would suggest consulting the National Directory of Computer Recycling
Programs that is hosted at the PEP site. Their URL is:
>
>http://www.microweb.com/pepsite/Recycle/recycle_index.html
>
>Another site you may wish to consult is Share The Technology. Their URL is:
>
>http://www.voicenet.com/~cranmer/recycling.html
>
>Finally, you may want to check out on behalf of your client the computer
scrap and dismantling section of Recycler's World at:
>
>http://www.recycle.net/recycle/computer/scrap/xv030500.html
>
>Hope this helps. Let us know what you were able to finally do with this
obsolete computer equipment.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Roger M. Guttentag
>
>========================================================================
>At 08:44 AM 10/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>A Bronx-based company recently contacted me seeking assistance in the
>>"proper" disposal or reuse of a great deal of old computer equipment. The
>>material must be out of their facility by October 15th.
>>
>>They have approximately 20-25 pallets full of old B/W monitors, PC Jrs,
>>286s, 386s, and some 486s. They also have a number of older model laser
>>printers, and a lot of dot matrix printers. Some of the equipment still
>>works, but I can't hazard a guess as to whether its's 10% of the items or
>>80% of the items.
>>
>>Does anyone have any ideas for them?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>Steve Hammer
>>Hammer Environmental Consulting
>>5294 Sycamore Ave.
>>Bronx, NY 10471
>>(718) 548-5285
>>
>>
>>Steve Hammer
>>Hammer Environmental Consulting
>>5294 Sycamore Ave.
>>Bronx, NY 10471
>>tel: (718) 548-5285
>>fax: (718) 548-5257
>>s_hammer@ix.netcom.com
>>
>>
>>
>
E-MAIL: rgutten@concentric.net
TEL: 215-513-0452
FAX: 215-513-0453

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:34:51 -0500
From: max_pot@greenbuilder.com (Pliny Fisk)
Subject: Computer recycling -- urgent need

Try Computer Recycling & Reuse, J.D. Porter, 512/708-9872 in Austin.

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 22:25:50 -0400 (EDT) From: CRRA@aol.com Subject: CRRA's Agenda for New Millennium on Web

The CA Resource Recovery Association Board of Directors will be considering the adoption of the Agenda for the New Millennium at their upcoming Quarterly Members/Board meeting in San Francisco on October 17, 1997. This document may be obtained from our web site: www.crra.com (listed under the "Upcoming Events" section). The Agenda for the New Millennium details CRRA policies on Zero Waste, Ending Welfare for Wasting and Jumpstarting Jobs with Design and Discards.

If you have any comments or suggestions on this document, please send them ASAP to me and/or CRRA Board members.

Thanks!

Gary Liss CRRA Executive Director 916-652-4450

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 97 17:47:24 From: "dk" <Koplow@indecon.com> Subject: Double-sided printing

Seems like simple things are never that simple when you try to implement them. To cut down on the amount of paper we waste on draft reports and memos, we have been trying to make double-sided printing our our lasers the default, with an easy override for staff who need single-sided output when they need it. We've been having some problems, described below. I'd appreciate input on possible solutions that some of you may know about. - Whereas Windows 3.1 had relatively easy options for double-sided printing, Windows 95 does not seem to. Our only success has been to install a special printer driver (which would need to be installed on every single computer in the firm) that mimics our Hewlett Packard. This solution is neither easy to install or perfect (for example, you once installed you can ONLY do double-sided printing). Given that Microsoft now controls about 80 percent of the market for operating systems, does anybody know if they have developed software patches to make this simple-but-important ability easy for their millinos of users? Ideally, we'd like to be able to define a different default setting for each software package; Excel worksheets often need to be printed single-sided. This default should be able to be set by our LAN administrator, rather than requiring each individual user to do so. - We have an older Hewlett Packard printer (Laserjet 4M Plus) that has a duplexing assembly for double-side printing. However, I'm told that few new printers have this capability as an option. Can this be true? If Windows can't print double-sided and Hewlett Packard can't print double-sided, it seems like an enormous way to source reduce is being missed. Thanks for any information you might have on how to make double-sided printing easy and fun for our entire company!

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:07:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BOBATLAS@aol.com Subject: looking for used Equipment-centrifuges, dryers & tanks

looking for

1.centrifigal decanter (about 50 gpm) prefer Bazell Technologies 2.sludge dryer: batch tpe dryer about 6 ft3 sludge 3.tanks--fiberglass or poly ethylene 6000 to 10ooo gallon size

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:30:43 -0500 From: Jim McNelly <compost@cloudnet.com> Subject: looking for used Equipment-centrifuges, dryers & tanks

BOBATLAS@aol.com wrote:

> looking for > > 1.centrifigal decanter (about 50 gpm) prefer Bazell Technologies > 2.sludge dryer: batch tpe dryer about 6 ft3 sludge > 3.tanks--fiberglass or poly ethylene 6000 to 10ooo gallon size

I know of a good used tripple pass natural gas Heil rotary dryer that was used for dyring peat moss that is available.

There is also a 20,000 insultated steel sludge tank with three mixers.

Call me or write by e-mail if interested.

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HTTP://www.composter.com - The Humusphere - Home of
NaturTech Composting Systems and The Composting Council
Links to Composting and Sustainable Community Sites

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:53:09 -0400 From: chelsea center for recycling and economic development <ccfred@ici.net> Subject: message problems

Does anyone else have the problem of getting messages that their messages didn't go through when they try to post on the listserve, even when their messages do actually get through? I do, and I also get it with Recycle@envirolink. Anyone know why this happens? ANyone know how to stop it? Amy Perlmutter Executive Director Chelsea Center for Recycling and Economic Development 180 Second Street Chelsea, MA 02150 617-887-2300/fax 617-887-0399

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 17:20:09 -0700 From: Myra Nissen <myracycl@inreach.com> Subject: message problems

I have the same problem for greenyes and CRRA listserve. I am glad you brought it up.

Myra Nissen

chelsea center for recycling and economic development wrote: > > Does anyone else have the problem of getting messages that their messages > didn't go through when they try to post on the listserve, even when their > messages do actually get through? I do, and I also get it with > Recycle@envirolink. Anyone know why this happens? ANyone know how to stop it? > Amy Perlmutter > Executive Director > Chelsea Center for Recycling and > Economic Development > 180 Second Street > Chelsea, MA 02150 > 617-887-2300/fax 617-887-0399

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:32:06 -0700 From: Robin Salsburg <robin@mrwmd.org> Subject: NEW Federal Junk Mail Law

Hi All-- Good news on Junk Mail! Please forward to as many folks as you can. = Also a press release to your local media would probably be picked up.=20

Robin Salsburg Monterey, CA

> ** WASTE PREVENTION FORUM ** >-- A project of the National Waste Prevention Coalition --------------------------------------- >From Oct. 1, 1997 Associated Press wire service story by Calvin = Woodward and Sept. 29, 1997 Federal Trade Commission press release:

NEW LAW INCLUDES PROVISION THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR CONSUMERS TO GET OFF SOME DIRECT MAIL LISTS

Changes to the federal Fair Credit Reporting Act took effect Sept. 30, 1997. =20 Under one provision of the new law, consumers can call toll-free numbers to remove themselves from lists used by credit-card companies and some direct marketers to solicit them by mail. Consumers need call only one of the three major national credit bureaus to get off all such lists. The special "opt-out" numbers are: Equifax -- 1-800-556-4711 Experian (formerly TRW) -- 1-800-353-0809 Trans Union -- 1-800-680-7293

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) describes the direct mail provision of the new law this way: "Consumers gain protections against unsolicited credit and insurance offers, including the multiple credit card offers that many consumers receive on a daily basis. Under the old law, creditors and insurers were able to use the credit reporting agencies' file information as a basis for developing lists of consumers to whom they send offers. Under the new law, consumers can follow a simple procedure to "opt out" of inclusion on future lists. They can call a toll-free number that each bureau has established (that will appear prominently on each offer), and have their name removed from these lists for two years. If they request, they will be sent a form that will allow them to take their names off of these credit bureau lists permanently."

The new law is primarily designed to make it easier for consumers to correct credit-bureau errors. For information on the other provisions of the law (which do not relate to direct mail), see the entire FTC press release at this website: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/9709/fcra929.htm - end -

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:53:12 -0400 From: "Bill Sheehan" <bill_sheehan@mindspring.com> Subject: New Recycling Goal for Pennsylvania

Forwarded from Jeff Schmidt, Sierra Club lobbyist in Pennsylvania:

Folks,

I've been contacted by state Representative David Argall (R, Schyulkill County) who plans to introduce a House Resolution calling for the state to adopt a recycling goal of 35% by the year 2008.

Pennsylvania State Law Act 101 adopted in 1988 established a 25% recycling goal by 1998. We are currently at about 21%. Because of Pennsylvania's large rural population (largest in the US), many say 35% is probably realistic, but a higher goal would be unfeasible.

I'd be interested in feedback before my meeting with Representative Argall on October 6.

Jeff Schmidt

PO Box 663 Harrisburg, PA 17108 717-232-0101 Fax: 717-238-6330 email: sierraclub.pa@paonline.com

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:39:38 -0400 From: "Blair Pollock" <bpollock@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us> Subject: pyrolysis synonyms and bugs

Jon Reindl -- how about "carbonization" as a "c" word?

Rick Anthony - a small flying insect landed on me briefly while I was at the Mayan temple pool late one night while at dizzy's whirl. I don't think s/he bit me.

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:14:08 -0500 From: max_pot@greenbuilder.com (Pliny Fisk) Subject: Sustainability Resources Inquiry

We produced a video, "Sustainable building in Texas: A Strategy Whose time has Come" earlier this year; in addition, the AIA Committee on the Environment has produced several tapes of sustainable-oriented conferences/panels; contact Chris Gribbs at AIA in Washington at GribbsC@aia.mail.aia.org; also check with Dave Wann in Golden, CO who has produced several tapes for Greening of America and perhaps others--he's at 303/216-1281. Other organizations like US Green Building Council, NRDC and Audubon may have videos relating to specific sustainable building projects.

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 17:27:12 -0400 From: "Marjorie J. Clarke" <mclarke@shiva.hunter.cuny.edu> Subject: The real world in NYC

I support the idea of zero waste or something close to it but.... I work for no pay in the very muddy trenches of New York City citizens' solid waste advisory boards to the ever-recalcitrant Dept. of Sanitation. While zero waste is some pie in the sky good eventual goal, we need to move the next baby step and the one after that. Although the City Council passed a law in 1988 that required recycling of residential and institutional trash of 25% by 1994 (we are currently around 15%), and despite the fact that the City has been brought to court on this repeatedly over the years (by NRDC, the citywide recycling advisory board, and some City Council members) and has lost every time (they just keep getting new deadlines, which they ignore) we persevere to get more items added to the recycling program and more budget allocated for education. Their waste prevention program focuses almost exclusively on business waste prevention, even though businesses already have financial incentives to do it themselves (commercial quantity-based user fees) and there are other local organizations involved with business waste prevention. The real challenges are in the residential sector. We are beating our heads against a brick wall and we're getting pretty bloody (not to mention, burned out). I guess I'd feel better about the zero waste movement if I had the feeling it was more rooted in present day needs and focused on exactly how to move the proverbial elephant to the next step. __ __ //\\ //\\ _ _ _ o _ // \\ // \\ ({_}} {{_}} {{_}} || //_\\ // \\// \\ ^ // // || \\__ \_// \_// Marjorie J. Clarke Environmental Scientist and Consultant http://everest.hunter.cuny.edu/~mclarke/index.htm http://everest.hunter.cuny.edu/~mclarke/moodyblu.htm New York City Phone & Fax: 212-567-8272

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:09:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BOBATLAS@aol.com Subject: used equipment: used RO membrane housings

looking for fiberglass 8" daim housings for membranes

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 97 15:16:16 EST From: "Russell Mankes" <RMANKES@CCGATEWAY.AMC.EDU> Subject: WASTE: Computer recycling -- urgent need

Dear Mr. Hammer, We have run into a similar problem with old edp equipment. EPA/DEC reg's seem to indicate that CRT's (and probably CPU) are RCRA regulated solid wastes. If disposed of, you must use a HAZMAT company (Manifest etc) if your local EPA/NYS DEC office follows regulatory letters we have seen. This is obviously very expensive. We have been shipping the units to a NYS DED certified recycler, eliminating the disposal requirements. I suggest you contact the NYS DED for an edp recycler in your area. You might also follow the hotlinks provided at our HRCC Website at HTTP://www.albanyonline.com/hrcc for computer recycling. Russell F. Mankes, PH.D. Associate Professor Environmental Health & Saftey Albany Medical Center Albany, NY

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: WASTE: Computer recycling -- urgent need Author: s_hammer@ix.netcom.com at Internet-Mail Date: 10/6/97 11:16 AM

A Bronx-based company recently contacted me seeking assistance in the "proper" disposal or reuse of a great deal of old computer equipment. The material must be out of their facility by October 15th.

They have approximately 20-25 pallets full of old B/W monitors, PC Jrs, 286s, 386s, and some 486s. They also have a number of older model laser printers, and a lot of dot matrix printers. Some of the equipment still works, but I can't hazard a guess as to whether its's 10% of the items or 80% of the items.

Does anyone have any ideas for them? Thanks. Steve Hammer Hammer Environmental Consulting 5294 Sycamore Ave. Bronx, NY 10471 (718) 548-5285 Steve Hammer Hammer Environmental Consulting 5294 Sycamore Ave. Bronx, NY 10471 tel: (718) 548-5285 fax: (718) 548-5257 s_hammer@ix.netcom.com - message sent by waste@cedar.univie.ac.at to signoff from the list, send an email to majordomo@cedar.univie.ac.at the message body should read signoff waste your@email.address -

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:51:37 -0400 From: "Patrick Corcoran" <corc@ix.netcom.com> Subject: WASTE: Computer recycling -- urgent need

-----Original Message-----

>They have approximately 20-25 pallets full of old B/W monitors, PC Jrs, >286s, 386s, and some 486s. They also have a number of older model laser >printers, and a lot of dot matrix printers. Some of the equipment still >works, but I can't hazard a guess as to whether its's 10% of the items or >80% of the items. > >Does anyone have any ideas for them?

The working items can definitely be donated to schools, non-profit orgs., etc. As for the non-working items, there might be people that specialize in restoring computers for resale or for reuse in the non-profit sector.

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