John,
My comment comes not from a source
document, but from my personal work experiences with European waste experts
over the last ten years. I have had the good fortune to work with some
incredible people across the ocean, and some of them may be on this list (or
lurking). I remember discussing the bioreactor situation with them
almost five years ago and they thought it was funny how one large private
corporation (Waste Management Inc) was going to take America down a path that the EU had already decided wasn’t a
good choice.
And I’m not sure you’re right that the EU
Directive came before bioreactors, although I don’t have the documents to back
me up. Do you? And I agree with Helen… the EU is aggresively
shutting down the landfill as an option over the next 10 years and the way
they are doing it is to LIMIT (and nearly prohibit) the amount of
biodegradable material allowed to go in. Hmmm… I wonder why that was
their chosen strategy?
Eric
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[mailto:GreenYes@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reindl,
John
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:08
AM
To: Helen Spiegelman;
GreenYes
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: EU
conclusion on bioreactors
My sense is that the EU Directive
was promulgated before the concept of bioreactors was fully developed.
It seems to me not a rejection,
per
se, but selection of a different path, when fewer
pathes were available.
And, the EU still allows organics
in landfills, thus those landfills still have the long term issues related to
organics to deal with.
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From:
GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address]On Behalf Of Helen
Spiegelman
Sent: Monday,
February 11, 2008 5:00 PM
To: GreenYes
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: EU conclusion
on bioreactors
Interesting question raised here: since
the EU Directive set limits on the % of organics in landfills doesn't this
amount to a de-facto rejection of bioreactor landfills?
H.
At
02:14 PM 2/11/2008, Reindl, John wrote:
Hi Eric
~
Could you provide an official EU
or other European agency document that shows that they have examined and
rejected bioreactors "in any and all forms and as unsafe and unable to keep
pollution from the environment"?
I served on a
committee that looked at accelerating the time frame at which waste disposal
sites would degrade material in them and looked at what was going on in the
EU, but was not fortunate enough to come up with any references that
included that conclusion.
Thanks
much,
John
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From: GreenYes@no.address
[mailto:GreenYes@no.address]On Behalf Of Eric
Lombardi
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008
12:02 PM
To: pdunn@no.address;
'GreenYes'
Subject: [GreenYes] Re:
Michigan bill could repeal landfill ban on yard waste
Never mind that Europe looked at bioreactors long ago and
rejected them in any and all forms as unsafe and unable to keep pollution
from the environment.
Eric
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