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Title: Re: [GreenYes] GHG and compost worms: Any thoughts, anyone?
Hi Joe ~
 
True, but NOx gases are not greenhouse gas "per se". On the other hand, nitrous oxide is a powerful GHG.
 
John
-----Original Message-----
From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address]On Behalf Of Joe Van Rossum
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:17 PM
To: GreenYes@no.address
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: GHG and compost worms:

Let us not forget that NOx is also produced as landfill gas is flared or combusted for energy recovery. The level of NOx production will vary with temp. and the technology used. I also found the phrase “But landfill sites are quite well run these days and it is possible to extract about half the gas they generate and use it for
electricity generation”
quite interesting as well.

 

JOE

Joseph Van Rossum

Recycling Specialist

UW-Extension - Solid & Hazardous Waste Education Center

610 Langdon Street, Room 533

Madison WI 53703

phone 608-262-0936

www.uwex.edu/shwec

 

"I left Earth three times. I found no place else to go. Please take care of Spaceship Earth." - Wally Schirra Jr.

 


From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf Of Reindl, John
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:00 PM
To: David Biddle
Cc: GreenYes@no.address
Subject: [GreenYes] RE: GHG and compost worms:

 

Hi David ~

 

My main work task these days is trying to help our local livestock farmers (mostly dairy) improve the management of manure. Our focus is on phosphorus reduction, and have found a number of management techniques result in increased nitrous oxide formation from the manure, with the associated GHG implications.

 

John

 

PS ~ The amount of manure per cow is huge, and the quantity of manure produced in my county swamps the amount of solid waste produced. It's a fascinating situation, and hopefully, we can find a way to reduce phosphorus loadings to the soil, while being able to beneficially reuse the nitrogen, organic material, trace nutrients and water.

-----Original Message-----
From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address]On Behalf Of David Biddle
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:51 PM
To: eroyte; GreenYes@no.address
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: GHG and compost worms: Any thoughts, anyone?

Interesting, indeed. This info got  a lot of play all over. Just Google it.

For what it’s worth, synthetic fertilizer, as I understand it (and I am by no means a soil scientist or even an organics expert), is also a significant source of nitrous oxide. Not sure of the comparison between synthetic and natural, nor especially the lifecycle issues, but in thinking this problem through, one clear thing to keep in mind is the fact that soil needs nitrogen. What are the differences between naturally occurring nitrogen and synthetic?

One fascinating thing is that it seems pretty clear this issue has not gotten enough research and attention vis-à-vis GHGs.

See the web pages below:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2003/07/20/2003060195

http://www.ghgonline.org/nitrousagri.htm

http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/TG/AG/fertapp.html

http://www.stanford.edu/group/i-rite/statements/2001/harrison.html

db

on 7/16/07 1:53 PM, eroyte at e@no.address wrote:


This article appeared in the Telegraph (UK)

Wormeries 'may add to greenhouse gases'

By Charles Clover, Environment Editor
Last Updated: 6:01pm BST 06/07/2007

Worms may not be as environmentally friendly as the growing number of
gardeners who use them to help compost their kitchen scraps and grass
clippings believe, say scientists.


In fact, the greenhouse gases emitted by a large commercial worm composting
plant may be comparable to the global warming potential of a landfill site
of the same scale, according to the Open University.

This is because worms used in composting emit nitrous oxide - a greenhouse
gas 296 times more powerful, molecule for molecule, than carbon dioxide.

Landfill sites produce methane which is 23 times more powerful a greenhouse
gas than carbon dioxide.

Jim Frederickson, senior research fellow at the Open University's
faculty of
technology, said: "We know from research in Germany that a third of the
nitrous oxide emissions coming from the soil are associated with worms.

"What we found from looking at large worm composting systems is that their
emissions could be comparable in global warming potential to the methane
from landfill sites."

The Government has said it wants to increase the amount of waste that is
composted to 40 per cent by 2010 and 45 per cent by 2015 - which is likely
to involve more commercial scale worm composting plants.

Red worms appear naturally in country compost heaps but over the past
decade
or so a thriving trade has grown up in domestic wormeries which enable
people with space as limited as a balcony to compost their kitchen waste.

Domestic wormeries are dustbin-sized boxes formed from several trays, with
names such as Can-O-Worms, into which reared worms are introduced. Some are
even made to look like beehives.

The worms are laid out on lime and vegetable peelings. When they have
digested this material they move to another level in search of more food.
The lower trays of compost can be used and a tap allows the liquid
collected
to be drained off as fertiliser.

The red worms used in composting are extremely efficient at breaking down
decomposing material such as kitchen scraps and other organic material but
they emit nitrous oxide in the process of digestion in the gut.

Mr Frederickson told Materials Recycling Week said: "Everybody loves worms
because they think they can do no harm but they contribute to global
warming.

"The amount of worm composting is very, very small and the amount of
landfill is huge. But landfill sites are quite well run these days and
it is
possible to extract about half the gas they generate and use it for
electricity generation.

"So the amount of nitrous oxide emitted by large scale worm composting is
something we should be looking at before we go further down that route."

Mr Frederickson said that the research he and his colleagues had done
was on
very large commercial worm composting "beds" which build up large
amounts of
nitrogen which is then emitted by the worms as gas.

It is unclear whether the same process goes on to the same extent in
domestic worm composting bins, but Mr Frederickson said: "We are clear they
will be producing nitrous oxide but maybe not to the same extent. They may
be more stable.

"Worm composting bins and compost heaps produce really good compost in a
decentralised way with no transport to landfill sites - which is a good
thing.

"But we must remember if we are evaluating this method against other
ways of
getting rid of wastes, such as landfill and incineration, that worm
composting can also be a source of greenhouse gas emissions."




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David Biddle, Executive Director
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Greater Philadelphia Commercial Recycling Council
P.O. Box 4037
Philadelphia, PA 19118

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215-432-8225 (cell)

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