[GreenYes] Re: Waste Not Asia Denounces Hazardous Technologies & Misuse of CDM

["Eric Lombardi" <eric@no.address>]

I love your last sentence about "virgin material harvest costs" not
being correct.   Many of us believe that the market is not
pricing environmental elements "honestly", but few of us speak of it in
our speeches or policy discussions.  That must change, and an
important first part of changing how people see the world is to change
how they speak of it.  

I will be speaking at the USCC national composting conference in
Orlando next week, and I for one will be using phrases like "Let's
create an honest economic comparison between virgin material harvest
costs and secondary material recovery costs."  If we can get our
public policy leaders to understand that sentiment, then we need to put
numbers to it ... and this is where our economists can give us the ammo
we need... Peter Anderson, Jeff Morris, and you Robin?  (BTW...
GreenYes requires that you identify yourself in postings, thanks.)

Eric Lombardi
Eco-Cycle

-----Original Message-----
From: "retroworks" <ingenthron@no.address>
Sent 1/19/2007 5:33:42 AM
To: "GreenYes" <GreenYes@no.address>
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Waste Not Asia Denounces Hazardous Technologies & Misuse of CDM


Hi Gopal,

This is all well and good, but this area of Asia should in particular
look at the entire lifecycle.  Malaysia and Indonesia (Borneo, PNG) are
where the mining and forestry is taking place.  Since I got into
recycling in 1977 (before Mobro) I have always found the general public
more excited by the idea of saving trees than by the idea of making
landfills lighter.

I'm not 100% certain that removing lead from solder in RoHS is
increasing tin mining and silver/ag mining in coral reefs on these
coasts, but I haven't ever heard anything to allay my concerns.  When I
see this many environmentalists at a conference in Asia focused on
end-of-pipe and "zero waste" measures, I get kind of depressed.  Is
there a similar Asian congress focused on demand-side issues?

A year ago a Chinese primary lead/zinc metal smelter dumped tons of
toxics into the Pearl River.  I barely saw any coverage.  It just seems
like the primary forestry and mining industries are the elephant in the
room, and everyone is focused on incineration, which wouldn't be a
problem if virgin material harvests bore a smidgen of their true costs.

--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GreenYes" group.
To post to this group, send email to GreenYes@no.address
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to GreenYes-unsubscribe@no.address
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes?hl=en
-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---