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Doug, you may want to look at the Glass packaging Institute's recycling web page at http://www.gpi.org/recycling/ for answers to some of your glass questions. At the recent National Recycling Congress I spoke with an offical of one of the major recycling industries who tolkd me htat infrared sorting of glass can separate it by color fast enough to make this separation and subsequent recycling into glass containers economically feasible but the infrared sorting equipment is exppensive. If the glass can't be sorted it has a number of one time uses. See EPA's Recyclig measurement guide at http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/non-hw/recycle/recmeas/docs/guide.pdf to see what we count as recycling my rerading of tthat document is that glass used in industrial applications does count as recycling. Also see http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/airwaste/wm/RECYCLE/Coordinators/References/EPA_Materials.pdf Here's a file I have on milk carton recycling: ** Here's a link to some info on milk carton recycling that may help . http://www.aseptic.org/School%20Recycling%20and%20Composting.shtml Recycling School Cartons: 1. Over the years, School Carton Recycling has proven to be challenging. Most schools have not been able to get the school cartons empty and dry enough so that the valuable paper fiber in the cartons is preserved and still suitable for a mill to buy. It requires on-going training not only for the children, but also for the custodial staff. It also requires diligent monitoring at each lunch period to make sure that the children are emptying out their cartons and that they are not throwing unwanted items in with the cartons. Despite these challenges, there are successful school programs that have been recycling cartons for years. For those of you who feel like you have the right stuff to conduct a successful school carton recycling program, please see listed below two wonderful individuals who have started and sustained successful school carton recycling programs for years! Their e-mail addresses are listed below, and you may contact them for pointers. We also have information on a rack drying system that has worked well in schools to get cartons empty and dry. We strongly suggest that you use this method to insure a more successful carton recycling program. (Please click on Rack Drying Method For School Cartons to download the document) We have also included a comprehensive School Recycling Guide and Curriculum that you can click on. Should you have any questions about setting up a milk carton and juice box recycling program, please e-mail one of the following individuals or visit their web site: Composting School Cartons: 1. For those of you who are feeling that school carton recycling may not be quite right for your school, we have some exciting news about school carton composting and not just composting cartons, but cafeteria food waste as well. In the spring of 1997, an innovative program was initiated by the Los Angeles Unified School District. It's goal? To test the feasibility of turning school milk cartons into rich, top-quality compost. Working with their waste hauler, The District has composted over 200 tons of milk cartons. Compost is the product of a natural process that breaks down green waste (leaves, twigs, grasses, etc.) and other organic materials into a beneficial soil amendment. Cartons are a perfect addition to the compost mix. Approximately 85% of the carton is paper -- an organic material. The remainder of the carton is polyethylene plastic. While plastic does not decompose, during the composting process it is reduced to very fine particles, which assists in keeping the compost loose. Composting milk and juice cartons is easy! Students are not required to drain and dry the cartons. In fact, depending on the program, cafeteria food wastes and other organics might also be included in the compost. A successful composting program requires a cooperative partnership between the students, the District, the recycling/waste hauler, and the composter. To assist school districts in developing this partnership, we have developed a "How-To" guide that you can click on and download. You might want to check out the following resources: 1. Food Waste Diversion in Schools: Final Report, http://www.ciwmb.ca.gov/foodwaste/casestudies/contracts/2000/westcounty2 2. Report on the CIWMB School District Diversion Project, http://www.ciwmb.ca.gov/Schools/Publications/ Thanks, Kimya Lambert Buy Recycled Section California Integrated Waste Management Board State of California David Lupinski, Director of Recycling, Located in New York State davel@no.address http://www.wastenot.org OR Eileen Stamp, Recycling Educator, Located in the state of Oregon eileens@no.address Recycling Resources: Comprehensive School Recycling Guide School Carton Recycling Curriculum Rack Drying Method for School Cartons Papermaking from Cartons Waste Wise (A Resource Guide for Teachers) by e-mail request and finally here's a file I have on aseptic packaging recycling: Links on aseptic packaging: Main web page for aseptic packaging council: http://www.aseptic.org/ Link to sites where aseptic packages can be recycled: http://www.aseptic.org/recycle_list.asp From: EarthGB@no.address [mailto:EarthGB@no.address] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:22 AM To: koplow@no.address; gary@no.address; greenyes@no.address Subject: Re: [BBAN]: [greenyes] Aseptic container background Some history on the aseptic package: The aseptic container, or drink box, actually was banned in 1 New England state, I think Maine, in the late 1980's. This was around the same time as the foamed polystyrene bans were passed in various parts of the US. At that time, the Mobro garbage barge, global warming, hole in the ozone layer, medical wastes washing up on beaches, and solid waste and environmental problems in general combined to create high levels of public awareness and a different climate leading to activism and lots of legislation. The makers of aseptic packages joined forces and formed the Aseptic Packaging Council, which I think is now defunct. However, for about 5 years, maybe longer, they implemented quite good recycling programs for drink boxes and polycoated milk cartons, primarily in the schools. They included milk cartons in the program, even though they weren't the manufacturers, in order to get the critical mass of materials for cost-effective recycling. Polycoat milk carton manufacturers didn't contribute a penny to this effort, though they benefited from the PR. At the time, I had the opportunity to learn more about the history of the aseptic package. The concept was originated (if I remember right) by the wife of the founder of TetraPak in Sweden. This was immediately after World War II, at a time when there were severe food shortages in Europe, made worse by the damaged transportation and distribution infrastructure. When food supplies did get to places where they were needed, the lack of refrigeration meant that many urgently needed foodstuffs spoiled before they could be used. The "tetrapak" was designed to be filled and sealed under aseptic (ultra sanitary) conditions, with flash heating, flash cooling, and filling of sterile containers in a sterile environment so that the products in them would have a long shelf life without refrigeration. The layers of paper, aluminum foil, and polyethylene film provided barrier properties to help preserve the foodstuffs, primarily milk and other liquid products. This is still how the packages are made & filled. Another advantage of this, besides energy saving, is that no preservatives or additives need to be put in the food contents. Aseptics are widely used in Europe for dairy products, soups, sauces, etc, & I've noticed their use in the US has expanded into some of the same applications. While the Aseptic Packaging Council's recycling programs were underway, they made much progress getting some paper mills with pulping capabilities to hydro-pulp the used packages (drink boxes and milk cartons) and recover the long fiber bleached sulphate paper, a prime material with very good demand & markets. As I recall, there were even some interesting breakthroughs, like getting National Geographic Magazine to agree to use the recovered fiber. The paper portion was about 2/3 or 3/4 of the bulk of the packages. The residue of film and foil was the only part not recovered, though it was effectively separated from the paper via hydro-pulping, then landfilled, as I recall. The APC (Aseptic Packaging Council) funded a fairly good recovery network in about half the US states with the largest population concentrations. They had excellent education materials/programs and recycling coordinators strategically positioned to help shepherd recovery. It was an impressive program, especially considering that just 2 companies--TetraPak and Combiblock--picked up the entire tab. The program wasn't perfect. There were logistics problems, and MRFs had trouble handling/baling the messy containers because of liquid residues of milk & juice. To APC's credit, however, much R&D effort and equipment development was done to address these issues. Research was also done on technologies to separate the aluminum foil from the PE film in the hydro-pulping residue. All this happened in the early 90's. No solution was found at that time, but it appears--from the Alcoa announcement--that the problem is being revisited. Given the oil and energy situations now, it makes good sense to try to reclaim the plastic film and Al foil. Shipping savings also are very important today. On strength to weight ratio aseptics beat all other package forms hands-down. This was confirmed by a Tellus Institute study in the early 90's. While I don't personally advocate the proliferation of hard-to-recycle packages, I did learn that there are other sides to the aseptic package story. Being able to deliver product without preservatives and additives, and with higher nutrition retention than, say, canning, definitely appealed to me. Also, as a former CA resident, I appreciated being able to include aseptic packaged foodstuffs in my earthquake preparedness kit. As for the ban on this package in Maine, it was eventually repealed (approx mid-90's), in large part due to the impressive recycling efforts of APC. However, I think that nationally organized drink box and milk carton Recycling gradually tapered off after this. If Alcoa's initiative will breathe new life into aseptic recycling, I think it could be a very good thing. Let's hope we see continued progress from them, and not simply a flash in the pan for PR reasons. Gretchen Brewer NM Environment Dept, Solid Waste Bureau Santa Fe, NM 505-827-0129 Go to http://www.aseptic.org/ and click on Beverage Carton Recycling Programs the 8th item from the top on the menu on the left side and you will pull up a US map in which you can click on individual States to find out where in that State you can recycle aseptic packaging. There is also some intersting information if you click on Recycling and Aseptic Packaging on the same left side menu. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GreenYes" group. 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