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[GreenYes] Re: This is how you convert all recycles efficiently

Hi Leonard,

The GreenYes List is a service of GRRN, and GRRN is the nations leading
voice for a Zero Waste future. GRRN created the definition in the 1990's of
what ZW is as a social movement, and what it is not, and speaking as the
GRRN Board President I can tell you that "burning" discarded resources is
not an acceptable practice, and cannot be included in any discussion as an
element of a Zero Waste plan. The same goes for landfilling. Both of these
approaches have been overtaken by a superior paradigm for the 21st Century
which states that there is no such thing as waste, only misplaced resources
(end of pipe) and abused resources (industrial designers desk).

I realize that technology is ever-changing, and everyone on this list is
interested in discussing how technology can help create a ZW world.
However, your focus on burning or thermal conversion or whatever it is you
are talking about has reached a point where you may ask yourself if you are
talking with the right community?

You are more than welcome to stay on-board, but I would ask you at this
point to gear down the number of emails you have been sending related to
burning society's discards . that is not of interest to GRRN or most of this
list membership.


Eric Lombardi

GRRN Board President

Executive Director

Eco-Cycle Inc

Boulder, CO. USA


-----Original Message-----
From: GreenYes@no.address [mailto:GreenYes@no.address] On Behalf
Of Alan Muller
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:30 PM
To: LWheeler45@no.address
Cc: GreenYes@no.address
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: This is how you convert all recycles efficiently

At 11:04 AM 9/12/2006 -0400, LWheeler45@no.address wrote:

At the point of initial collection in your home or business.
Nothing curbside ZERO NADA.

Leonard, I wish you would stop spamming the list with this stuff. I looked
at the attachment. It is for a med waste cooker with a capacity of 4.8
tons/24 hour day. Electrical consumption looks like 6912 KWh for that 24
hours. Assuming cheap wholesale electricity ($0.05 KWh) this is $72/ton for
electricity alone.

There are no data on air emissions but the process sketch shows a
circulating scrubber system with discharge to sewer. It is just an
expensive-to-operate electrically-fired incinerator.


Leonard E. Wheeler Jr

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a
fool than to speak and remove all doubt."
and ....
Grant me the serenity to ignore the trolls,
the courage to debate with honest opponents,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

Alan Muller, Executive Director
Green Delaware
Box 69
Port Penn, DE 19731 USA
fax (302)836-3005
greendel@no.address <>

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