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Blair,
Are you going to Atlanta? If so we can talk about the two bins distribution
there?

Susan Hubbard
CEO
Eureka Recycling
2828 Kennedy St., NE
Minneapolis, MN 55413

(651)222-7678
(612)623-3277
www.eurekarecycling.org

Waste is Preventable Not Inevitable


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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:26 AM
To: GreenYes digest subscribers
Subject: 4 new messages in 3 topics - digest


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Today's topics:

* Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and Best Uses - 2 messages, 2 authors

http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/91db30614e54e10
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* NCRA's Introduction to Recycling Class - Coming Soon to SF and LA! - 1
messages, 1 author

http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/7201def18831344
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* Implementing two stream program and introducing a second bin in the
process -
1 messages, 1 author

http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/c8ec603d2e4bcc0
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TOPIC: Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and Best Uses
http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/91db30614e54e10
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 28 2006 7:17 am
From: Alan Muller


Gary,

I am in general agreement with the rank ordering of items. I think
it would be useful to have a background document explaining the basis
for the ordering. For example, what is the difference between
"Landfill in "bioreactor" designed without cost constraints" and WITH
cost constraints? Everything in the real world has costs
constraints... What do we really mean here?

In my own mind, I tend to classify processes as potentially vs not
potentially acceptable. In Delaware, responding to persistent
incineration promotion (originating with the crank Vasuki), there has
been debate and misunderstanding over whether incineration should be
"off the table," vs whether one has to look at it in order to
*appear* objective and reasonable, vs those who consider this a real
option. Does including incineration (of mixed garbage) in a
hierarchy amount to taking sides in this sort of debate? Are some
approaches "not potentially acceptable?"

To offer another (silly) example, a waste management option seriously
considered by some Delaware households, and adopted by some of these,
is to put their wastes in green poly bags and toss them by the side
of the road for someone else (DOT crews and chain gangs) to pick up
or for critters to scatter. For some reason this "option" is never
brought up by waste managers and wonks but it is a live option for
the "customer."

Alan


At 05:05 PM 9/27/2006 -0700, Gary Liss wrote:
>Apologies for Cross-Postings
>
>I've just drafted the attached Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and
>Best Use. I've also pasted it into the website of the Zero Waste
>Communities Yahoo Group, at:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZeroWasteCommunities/files/. You may
>need to join the Yahoo group to access it. To do so, email
>ZeroWasteCommunities-subscribe@no.address or go to
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZeroWasteCommunities/
>
>This is based on the Environmental Hierarchy of Waste Management &
>Energy Production Methods / Fuels / Technologies, prepared by Mike
>Wall of the Energy Justice Network, 215-743-4884,
><mailto:catalyst@no.address>catalyst@no.address,
>www.energyjustice.net. To get his chart, go to:
>http://www.energyjustice.net/technologies.pdf
>
>This is still in DRAFT form. I'd like you to review and comment on
>it. Please send me your comments directly in either WORD tracking
>tool, or as general email comments.
>
>I'm particularly interested in hearing if there are major
>issues/practices missing, and if there should be a different order
>provided for any particular item.
>
>Thanks for your anticipated cooperation!
>
>Gary
>
>Gary Liss
>916-652-7850
>Fax: 916-652-0485
>www.garyliss.com
>>

Alan Muller, Executive Director
Green Delaware
Box 69
Port Penn, DE 19731 USA
(302)834-3466
fax (302)836-3005
greendel@no.address
www.greendel.org




== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 28 2006 11:50 am
From: ricanthony@no.address


I agree with Alan Muller on this.
I will go so far to say that i think incineration and landfill as well as
littering should be off the table as polluting methodologies. We should
focus on managing resources in our hierarchy.
Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: amuller@no.address
To: gary@no.address; GreenYes@no.address
Cc: marlenerayner@no.address
Sent: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 4:17 AM
Subject: [GreenYes] Re: Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and Best Uses


Gary,

I am in general agreement with the rank ordering of items. I think it would
be useful to have a background document explaining the basis for the
ordering. For example, what is the difference between "Landfill in
?bioreactor? designed without cost constraints" and WITH cost constraints?
Everything in the real world has costs constraints... What do we really
mean here?

In my own mind, I tend to classify processes as potentially vs not
potentially acceptable. In Delaware, responding to persistent incineration
promotion (originating with the crank Vasuki), there has been debate and
misunderstanding over whether incineration should be "off the table," vs
whether one has to look at it in order to *appear* objective and reasonable,
vs those who consider this a real option. Does including incineration (of
mixed garbage) in a hierarchy amount to taking sides in this sort of debate?
Are some approaches "not potentially acceptable?"

To offer another (silly) example, a waste management option seriously
considered by some Delaware households, and adopted by some of these, is to
put their wastes in green poly bags and toss them by the side of the road
for someone else (DOT crews and chain gangs) to pick up or for critters to
scatter. For some reason this "option" is never brought up by waste
managers and wonks but it is a live option for the "customer."

Alan


At 05:05 PM 9/27/2006 -0700, Gary Liss wrote:

Apologies for Cross-Postings

I've just drafted the attached Zero Waste Hierarchy of Highest and Best Use.
I've also pasted it into the website of the Zero Waste Communities Yahoo
Group, at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZeroWasteCommunities/files/. You
may need to join the Yahoo group to access it. To do so, email
ZeroWasteCommunities-subscribe@no.address or go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZeroWasteCommunities/

This is based on the Environmental Hierarchy of Waste Management & Energy
Production Methods / Fuels / Technologies, prepared by Mike Wall of the
Energy Justice Network, 215-743-4884, catalyst@no.address,
www.energyjustice.net. To get his chart, go to:
http://www.energyjustice.net/technologies.pdf

This is still in DRAFT form. I'd like you to review and comment on it.
Please send me your comments directly in either WORD tracking tool, or as
general email comments.

I'm particularly interested in hearing if there are major issues/practices
missing, and if there should be a different order provided for any
particular item.

Thanks for your anticipated cooperation!

Gary

Gary Liss
916-652-7850
Fax: 916-652-0485
www.garyliss.com

Alan Muller, Executive Director
Green Delaware
Box 69
Port Penn, DE 19731 USA
(302)834-3466
fax (302)836-3005
greendel@no.address
www.greendel.org
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TOPIC: NCRA's Introduction to Recycling Class - Coming Soon to SF and LA!
http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/7201def18831344
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 28 2006 9:55 am
From: "jlehrer@no.address"


INTRODUCTION TO RECYCLING
All the Basics: Terms, Concepts, Equipment, and Resources
One great course, two locations - San Francisco and Los Angeles!

Come to days 1&2 only, or day 3 only, or stay the whole course - one
low price!


IN SAN FRANCISCO:
October 23-25, 2006 (Monday - Wednesday)
8:30 AM - 3:15 PM
SANITARY FILL CLASSROOM
401 Tunnel Road, San Francisco 94134
(at Bayshore CalTrain Station)
Free parking and available public transit


IN LOS ANGELES:
November 13-15, 2006 (Monday - Wednesday)
8:30 AM - 3:15 PM
Los Angeles Conservation Corps (LACC)
2824 South Main Street, Los Angeles 90007

COST: $45 for all materials (lunch not included).
**Scholarships now available for students! Contact
ncra@no.address for details.**

Register Online at http://www.ncrarecycles.org/itr/itr.html

WHY THIS COURSE?
Sometimes our own recycling work is moving forward so fast that we may
lack the time, skills, or appropriate context to provide needed
training or orientation to newcomers or decisionmakers. Thus, NCRA
offers this inexpensive three-day course at a convenient location to
help train people who would like a quick overview of the current
recycling industry and its choice-points for future development.

WHO SHOULD ATTEND?
The course is designed for newcomers to the recycling field and is an
ideal orientation for many people such as: entry-level program
assistants, interns, professionals from other fields, members of local
advisory committees, city council members and staff, members of the
board of supervisors, activists, solid-waste handlers, recycling
program managers and staff.

CURRICULUM:

DAYS 1 & 2
KEY TERMS IN RECYCLING
* Introductory survey: what do you currently know about recycling
* Basic terms: three Rs, the IWM hierarchy, and "to discard or to
dispose?"

BASIC CONCEPTS IN RECYCLING
* The roles of cycles in ecosystems and closing the materials loop
* How the materials cycle got broken
* How we recognized our shortcomings
* Conceptualizing the future: hierarchy
* The failure of recycling's competitors: landfills and incinerators
* Market share of competing ventures - how fast things change
* The eight reasons we recycle
* Categorizing recyclables: the twelve master categories
* How recycling works: drop-off, buyback, curbside
* Processing mixed materials vs. source-separated recycling
* The five types of facilities that sort and process materials
* Encouraging source separation-type recycling: the four policy options
* Five meanings of "source reduction"
* Three levels/types of recycling
* Developing markets and procuring recycled products
* Forming new ventures: the six areas of activity
* Recycling's role in climate change
* Overview of commonly used equipment

DAY 3
CALIFORNIA'S REGULATORY CONTEXT:
What the California Integrated Waste Management Board is, how it
operates, what it requires of local governments, how local public
agencies stay out of trouble, the level of enforcement, managing data
for reports, etc.

KNOW YOUR MATERIALS
Hands-on demonstrations of basic market grades of materials: metal,
glass, paper, plastic, wood, etc.

EQUIPMENT SLIDE SHOW
Independent learning: paper and video resources

INDEPENDENT LEARNING
Registrant will be advised to consult "Introduction to Recycling,"
which is posted on NCRA's web site, http://www.ncrarecycles.org. The
majority of the presenters will be NCRA members and others working in
the recycling field. Most of the classroom day will be spent listening
to guest speakers and completing exercises designed to enhance the
basic concepts in the field.

INSTRUCTORS
Under the general leadership of Arthur Boone, NCRA's Educational
Chairperson, a series of recycling industry leaders will address
specific topics.

Register Online at http://www.ncrarecycles.org/itr/itr.html






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TOPIC: Implementing two stream program and introducing a second bin in the
process
http://groups.google.com/group/GreenYes/browse_thread/thread/c8ec603d2e4bcc0
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 28 2006 5:47 pm
From: "Blair Pollock"


Hi, we here in Orange Co. NC are on the cusp on introducing a second 18
gallon bin to all the 30,000 households on our urban & rural curbside
recycling programs and seek the guidance and wisdom of those who have come
before on how to best do this particularly regarding:
Opt-out programs, not everyone may WANT or NEED a second bin, they can
effectively bag their paper - how to manage opt outs?
Best way to do education & outreach, we're thinking a mailer in advance,
followed by the bin (with or without a brochure in it?)
Labeling the bin: we are thinking of giving out a single 'universal' label
saying "You can put all PAPER in ONE BIN and all cans n Bottles in the OTHER
BIN. WE DON'T CARE which as long as you separate. Is that a good way or give
two labels, one for their existing bin and one for the new one?
Any other info you could tell us about your experience w/ implementing two
stream using a second bin would help
Thanks.

Blair L. Pollock
Orange County Solid Waste Planner
(919) 968-2788
(919) 932-2900 fax
PO Box 17177
Chapel Hill NC 27516-7177
Only 1 in 5 plastic bottles is now recycled in Orange County.






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