[GreenYes] Re: ANS Synergy of Recycle and Redux intergrated process

[Minimushomines@no.address]

Smooze!!!???  Well maybe just a little. I want to stay on a positive  track. 
Thanks for the additional information. Looking forward to not  critics attack 
but analysis by others that share interest in the  subject. $425 million 
proposed plasma arc project for St. Lucie County and  the possibility of the better 
system you've mentioned raise legitimate  questions. The whole deal has 
enormous implications across the board  for Florida and beyond. 
 
Later,
Bob
 
In a message dated 8/22/2006 11:04:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
LWheeler45@no.address writes:

You write well Bob but you smooze better, And Monica he said good  things 
about you and your commitment to Eco friendly send him a : )
 
To get where I am technically and presently review:
 
All of Congressman Dr Roscoe Bartlett's (R) MD energy and peak oil  
presentations which are extensive and web posted.
 
The Vision 21 policy proposal a USDOE total concept for recycle of  waste. I 
will send the Web address.
 
Westinghouse Plasma Web site as well as Star Tech if they still have  their 
waste system posted along with their news releases.
 
Then the Jim Wright water book I referenced previously
 
And then you can read the Fla Sunshine Energy Plan I put together in July  
2004. Copy under separate E mail A real piece of hasty research but with  great 
references and definite profound impact on some political  decisions. Note the 
waste streams in Fla not recycled. Feel free to  share.
 
What I found was an enormous stock of high BTU waste but no way to safely  
use them. You get Dioxins, Mercury high Nox, Arsenic, and some really illegal  
by products and smells with any fire/Ox type incineration process  INCLUDING 
Gasification and Changing World Technologies Turkey Guts to oil  processes.
 
Where the problem seemed to be with waste and current recycles is it  does 
not pay enough. If glass bottles were 20 cents each, alum cans a dollar  and 
tires $5.00. This state with have all collected by Friday and that is  this 
Friday. 
 
So if this premise is correct and if you or any lister wants to test it  and 
has the money feel free to test it (first with me). I have 9  old tires and 
100 glass bottles already to go.    
 
Now those tires are pure OIL DENSITY energy along with a few  pounds of steel 
and some carbon and assorted ugly toxic stuff, 
 
One major tire co has finally figured a way to revert the  vulcanization 
process to raw materials from which new tires can be made  so those tires may get 
a higher recycle price in the future. You can still  have them for 5.00 each 
however.
 
Now if some CHEAP and Environmentally safe method existed that  all of that 
Hydrogen and Carbon recycled material could be reduced to base  elements H. N. 
C. S, etc., at the point of end consumption and recombined to  another use 
product like heat gasoline fuel oil plastic ingots the value of  that compacted 
value added raw material it would really make such by  product waste valuable.
 
When you add a temperature stability controlling component to  the 50 year 
old plasma redux process you can do just that and  cheaply.
 
Every small waste generator then becomes a mini recycle center  There is a 
reduction in volume of about 90 percent to the prior recycle waste  stream and 
NO toxic chemicals or dioxins or pathogens survive. Only Gas or  Inert Glass 
containing elements make it.
 
AS a by product to redux there is heat lots of heat. Could  be Process heat 
for water or Ethanol distillation, 300 degree steam at 10  to 12 PSI which can 
be stepped up to F 1000 with a heat exchanger. 
 
Review  Corn and Sugar Ethanol Energy balances and
Remove the heat of distillation by natural gas or oil from current  Ethanol 
processes. Note the profound positive energy balance  changes.  
 
Visit also Governor's ethanol coalition for more info as well as  renewable 
fuels association.
 
Critics attack !  
 
 
 
 



 


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