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RE: [greenyes] Climate Disruption - New Confirmation from Ocean Measurements


Not good science!? Do you know who Tim Barnett is, what his qualifications are and the
data the study is based on? I sincerely hope your comment wasn't serious. The Barnett
paper is available only to those with Science subscriptions, but see
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=124 and http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=148.
-- Steve Bloom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Arkwright,Jr [mailto:powerbysun@no.address]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:34 AM
> To: GreenYes
> Subject: Re: [greenyes] Climate Disruption - New Confirmation from Ocean
> Measurements
>
>
> As bush would but it - this is not good science. Even
> if it was a NASA scientist making the report it would
> not be good enough science.
> Be the way, what is good science any ways? GOOD GOD I
> BEEN bushTISIZED!!!
>
> --- Peter Anderson <anderson@no.address> wrote:
>
> > UPI in the WASHINGTON TIMES
> >
> > Climate: Ocean warming supports models
> >
> >
> > By Dan Whipple
> >
> > Boulder, CO, Jun. 6 (UPI) -- Clear evidence of
> > human-produced warming in the
> > oceans verifies some of the most important
> > predictions of climate models,
> > suggesting it is time for action instead of argument
> > about the existence of
> > greenhouse warming, according to a paper by Scripps
> > Institution of
> > Oceanography scientists.
> >
> > A paper appearing in the June 3 issue of the journal
> > Science by Tim Barnett,
> > a marine physicist at Scripps, and colleagues
> > reported that a strong warming
> > signal has penetrated the world's oceans over the
> > last 40 years that cannot
> > be explained by natural internal climate variability
> > or by solar or volcanic
> > forcings -- but is consistent with human causes.
> >
> > "The thing that is nice about our deal is that we
> > found that most of the
> > heat increase has gone into the oceans, and the
> > oceans are the flywheel of
> > the global climate system," Barnett told UPI's
> > Climate. "We looked at where
> > the biggest signal was. If your models are going to
> > be any good, you'd like
> > to get that one right -- and they sure did."
> >
> > Barnett's group found a close agreement between
> > observed warming signals in
> > the oceans and the predictions of two prominent
> > climate models: one called
> > the Parallel Climate Model used by the National
> > Center for Atmospheric
> > Research in Boulder, Colo., and one used by
> > Britain's Hadley Centre in
> > Exeter.
> > The results indicate the climate models can be
> > trusted for any important
> > predictions.
> >
> > "Since the historical changes have been well
> > simulated, future changes
> > predicted by these global models are apt to be
> > reasonably good, at least out
> > to, say, 20 or 30 years into the future," the paper
> > said, although Barnett
> > told Climate that the models' accuracy farther out,
> > to 2050, for example, is
> > less reliable.
> > Nevertheless, he said, the results are strong enough
> > to settle the argument
> > about whether human activity is causing current
> > warming.
> >
> > "...
> > "...
> > "...
> > "...
> >
> > The paper by Barnett and colleagues comes on the
> > heels of another paper in
> > Science a few weeks ago that found Earth is
> > absorbing considerably more
> > energy from the sun than it is emitting back into
> > space. That paper, by
> > James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute
> > for Space Studies, and
> > colleagues found Earth's heat balance has shifted
> > substantially. Based both
> > on models and observations, they concluded the
> > planet can expect global
> > warming of an average of 0.6 degrees Celsius (1.1
> > degrees Fahrenheit), even
> > if carbon-dioxide emissions into the atmosphere were
> > curtailed immediately.
> >
> > "This energy imbalance is the 'smoking gun' that we
> > have been looking for,"
> > Hansen said in a news release. "It shows that our
> > estimates of the
> > human-made and natural climate forcing agents are
> > about right, and they are
> > driving the Earth toward a warmer climate."
> >
> > The two papers are complementary. Together, they
> > provide strong verification
> > of at least the larger mid-time-scale predictions of
> > the climate models.
> > "The statistical significance of these results is
> > far too strong to be
> > merely dismissed and should wipe out much of the
> > uncertainty about the
> > reality of global warming," Barnett said.
> >
> > "...
> > "...
> >
> > The ocean-warming research results are strong
> > enough, Barnett thinks, along
> > with the other recent research, to shift the debate
> > away from whether
> > human-induced climate change is occurring.
> >
> > "We need to do something about it," he said. "We
> > need leadership. There are
> > a lot of things that can be done, and we're doing
> > none of them, as a
> > country. If they think they've got Social Security
> > problems in 2041, wait
> > until they see what this one looks like."
> >
> > FOR FULL ARTICLE
> >
> http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20050606-111933-8954r.htm
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