[greenyes] don't buy it RE: [greenyes] [jtrnet] Lay's (Frito) packaging Q - KansasMarket

["Stephen N Weisser" <stevew@no.address>]

Another thought from a consumer standpoint: Add this to my list of products
I don't buy because of poor packaging.  Reminds me of the orange juice jugs,
I think Tropicana, that are "#7 OTHER / #2 Compatible HDPE and Nylon."

Also Welchs juice in the little #7 bottles, some ketchup in #7 bottles (most
brands are #1.  Strangely most Heinz is #1 but some are other
plastics...perhaps due to different bottling facilities.)

I'm sure theres others. :)

Stephen N. Weisser, Sales Manager
GreenLine Paper Company, Inc.
631 S. Pine Street
York, PA  17403
717-845-8697
www.greenlinepaper.com
stevew@no.address

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Lombardi [mailto:eric@no.address]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:02 PM
To: 'Rose Niemi'; gary@no.address; greenyes@no.address
Subject: RE: [greenyes] [jtrnet] Lay's (Frito) packaging Q -
KansasMarket


Hi Rose,

Very interesting ... Can you describe what it will be recycled into?  Who is
your buyer, what do they make out of it, and are they paying you for "mixed
hard rigid" or are you paying them to take it?

Thanks,

Eric Lombardi
Executive Director
Eco-Cycle Inc
303-444-6634
www.ecocycle.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Rose Niemi [mailto:Rose@no.address]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:51 AM
To: gary@no.address; greenyes@no.address
Subject: Re: [greenyes] [jtrnet] Lay's (Frito) packaging Q - KansasMarket



A rep from a local recycling company states:

That item would be pulled as a "Mixed Hard Rigid" at our plant, and
recycled.

Take care,

Rose

Rose Niemi
Merced County Association of Governments
369 West 18th Street
Merced CA 95340
209-723-3153, extension 315
rose@no.address

>>> Gary Liss <gary@no.address> 05/09/05 5:50 PM >>>
Anyone know if this package is recyclable?

Gary

>Subject: [jtrnet] Lay's (Frito) packaging question - Kansas Market
>To: "Public and non-profit recycling market developers"
<jtrnet@no.address>
>From: RFerguson@no.address
>
>A new (to this market anyway -Topeka, KS) Lay's product called 'Stax'
- a
>'Pringle' like potato chip snack product features a mobius symbol and
>'Please Recycle' on the label on the main tube.
>
>The lid is marked as a '4', however my confusion is the main container
is
>marked as a '2' and a '7'.  It appears the main container may be a
>co-extruded product with the blue - presumably '2' on the outside, and
the
>interior being black - presumably the '7' and appearing completely
>inseparable.
>
>Question:
>
>What is the proper way to handle/process the tube.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rodney
>------------------------------------------
Subject: RE: [jtrnet] Lay's (Frito) packaging question - Kansas Market
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:31:37 -0400
From: "Gilbert, James" <JGILBERT@no.address>
To: "Public and non-profit recycling market developers"
<jtrnet@no.address>

The Federal Trade Commission issued guides concerning Environmental
Marketing Claims.  The following is an excerpt from its website:

"d) Recyclable: It is deceptive to misrepresent, directly or by
implication, that a product or package is recyclable. A product or
package should not be marketed as recyclable unless it can be
collected,
separated or otherwise recovered from the solid waste stream for
reuse,
or in the manufacture or assembly of another package or product,
through
an established recycling program. Unqualified claims of recyclability
for a product or package may be made if the entire product or package,
excluding minor incidental components, is recyclable."

While I think you have a good case I suggest that you read all the
applicable guide sections before approaching the company.  They
provide
many illustrations of acceptable and deceptive practices.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/grnrule/guides980427.htm

Jim Gilbert
Empire State Development
Environmental Services Unit
400 Andrews Street, Suite 710
Rochester, NY  14604
585.325.1944
Fax 585.325.6505
jgilbert@no.address
>------------------------------------------
From: thomas.heil@no.address
To: "Public and non-profit recycling market developers"
<jtrnet@no.address>
Subject: RE: [jtrnet] Lay's (Frito) packaging question - Kansas Market
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:59:58 -0400

There are a lot of #1 thru #7 mixed bales markets available now,
especially
export to China or Recycle America's new Chicago plant. I'd guess
they'd be
able to handle the material. I also guess from seeing the commercial
that
this is a blow molded container with an MDX-6 Nylon barrier layer in it
to
make it fit the #7 Other code. The #4 LDPE cap might be able to be
included
too.    tom


Gary Liss
916-652-7850
Fax: 916-652-0485
www.garyliss.com