RE: Fwd: [BBAN]: [greenyes] Aseptic containers: Alcoaannouncesnew recycling proc...

["Steve Apotheker" <apothekers@no.address>]

As Eric suggests there is nothing simple about getting a product ban,
especially in today's climate.  However, 17 years ago in simpler times,
Portland, Oregon, Berkeley and several dozen other cities did ban the
use of expanded polystyrene (EPS) cups and containers for retail use.  
As a result, the PS  resin producers and container manufacturers formed
a recycling company that opened three plants to recycle post-consumer
EPS.  Unfortunately, there was no followup by government to ensure
ongoing recycling and the plastics companies gradually shut down their
plants.  
 
 
>>> "Eric Lombardi" <eric@no.address> 5/26/05 2:03:34 PM >>>

I agree with Doug that the energy savings are an important factor in
this packaging type. But another problem with the suggestion from
"Jdresser" is that there is nothing "simple" about getting a product
"ban" in place.  I don't know which country this person lives in, but
in the Western States of America even suggesting a product ban will get
you labeled as un-American! Eric Eric LombardiExecutive
DirectorEco-Cycle Inc303-444-6634www.ecocycle.org "We have multiplied
our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too
seldom and hate too often. We've learned how to make a living, but not a
life" George Carlin 
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Koplow [mailto:koplow@no.address] 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:50 PM
To: gary@no.address; greenyes@no.address
Subject: Re: Fwd: [BBAN]: [greenyes] Aseptic containers:
Alcoaannouncesnew recycling proc... The only problem with a ban is that
aseptic contains provide a low-weight, low breakage way to ship and
store food products such as milk and juice without refrigeration for
fairly long periods of time.  This is quite important in many parts of
the world.
 
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>>> Gary Liss <gary@no.address> 05/26/05 04:33PM >>>
From: Jdresser1@no.address
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:40:09 EDT
Subject: Re: [BBAN]: [greenyes] Aseptic containers: Alcoa announces new
recycling proc...
To: gary@no.address

I would think a simpler solution, rather than going to all this trouble
for an end of pipe solution, would be to simply 'ban' this type of
container from the marketplace. Gary Liss
916-652-7850
Fax: 916-652-0485
www.garyliss.com