RE: [greenyes] Glass recycling price drops here too

["Reindl, John" <Reindl@no.address>]

Hi Andrew ~

We ship to the CRA facility in East Troy, WI, and then some of our glass is
moved on to CRA's Chicago facility. Our prices include the deduction for
transportation, and perhaps, some contamination from our two-stream MRF.

Besides dropping two months ago, our prices were again dropped for December.


John 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrew bennett [mailto:andrewitalian@no.address]
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:15 PM
> To: greenyes@no.address
> Subject: RE: [greenyes] Glass recycling price drops here too
> 
> 
> Hello, I'm Andrew Bennett from Mc Henry County
> Defenders (we operate a not for profit recycling
> facility NW of Chicago)  and we send our glass to
> Container Recycling Alliance facility in Beloit
> Wisconsin and I believe it is a part of Recycle
> America which I think it is a part of WM.  Glass
> prices dropped for us 2 months ago but we are getting
> $16 ton for clear, 14 for brown and nothing for green.
>  After shipping we will end up with no more than a 200
> income which doesn't include all the labor.  If prices
> drop further were it doesn't cover shipping we may
> have to discontine glass collection.
> We operate a drop off center were people sort the
> glass by color and then it gets checked before it is
> crushed into gaylords so it has fairly low
> contamination.  This might be why we get more than
> John, or maybe they give us a break being not for
> profit.
> I hope some of this helps.
>  
> --- Susan Hubbard <susanh@no.address> wrote:
> 
> > John is CRA WMI's container recycling alliance? If
> > not, who is CRA? Is your
> > glass from a single stream program? If so, then does
> > this glass have to go
> > to an optical sorter or is it used in a low value
> > application - like
> > aggregate? 
> > 
> > Susan Hubbard
> > CEO
> > Eureka Recycling
> > 2828 Kennedy St., NE
> > Minneapolis, MN 55413
> > 
> > (651)222-7678
> > (612)623-3277
> > www.eurekarecycling.org
> > 
> > Waste is Preventable Not Inevitable
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Reindl, John [mailto:Reindl@no.address] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:27 AM
> > To: 'Gary Liss'; greenyes@no.address
> > Subject: [greenyes] Glass recycling price drops here
> > too
> > 
> > As in New Zealand, the price being paid for glass in
> > Wisconsin is also
> > dropping. For example, CRA has announced a reduction
> > in prices to our MRF to
> > the following:
> > 
> > 	Clear		$4.50 a ton
> > 	Brown		$3.50 a ton
> > 	Green		negative $8.50 a ton
> > 	Mixed		negative $19.50 a ton
> > 
> > This is the third price decrease this year and is
> > due in part to increased
> > transportation cost from higher diesel prices and I
> > foresee that the price
> > will decline in the future as well. 
> > 
> > Users of our MRF pay approximately $70 a ton to have
> > their glass processed
> > and then receive 80% of the value of the glass or
> > pay 80% of the cost to
> > market it, so the net cost of recycling glass at our
> > MRF is on the order of
> > $65 to $85 a ton. Added to that would be any
> > marginal costs of collection. 
> > 
> > I see a need to improve the economics. I would
> > invite suggestions from
> > others on this.
> > 
> > John Reindl, Recycling Manager
> > Dane County, WI 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gary Liss [mailto:gary@no.address]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:19 PM
> > > To: zwia@no.address; greenyes@no.address
> > > Subject: [greenyes] URGENT! NZ Glass Recycling
> > crisis
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Apologies for Cross-Postings
> > > 
> > > If you have any suggestions on how NZ can respond
> > to these glass recycling
> > 
> > > problems, please email Jo@no.address (Jo
> > Knight, CEO, ZW NZ Trust).
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > Gary
> > > 
> > > >To: "Zero Waste Update"
> > <the.editor@no.address>
> > > >Organization: Zero Waste New Zealand Trust
> > > >From: "Suzi Phillips"
> > <the.editor@no.address>
> > > >Subject: URGENT !  Zero Waste E-News Bulletin #16
> > > >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:05:06 +1300
> > > >
> > > >Dear Zero Wasters,
> > > >
> > > >Highlights of this Zero Waste E-news Bulletin
> > are;
> > > >
> > > >*       Glass recycling dealt blow by price
> > reductions for cullett
> > > >*       Community groups also under siege from
> > funding cuts 
> > > and concern 
> > > >about steel  can recycling
> > > >
> > > >1.      Glass recovery and recycling in New
> > Zealand has been 
> > > dealt a blow 
> > > >by the  country's only major glass recycler.
> > > >ACI Glass has a monopoly on processing large
> > quantities of  
> > > glass cullett 
> > > >from around New Zealand and has just announced
> > major price 
> > > drops effective 
> > > >from January
> > > > From that date the company will reduce the price
> > it pays 
> > > for all glass 
> > > > cullett from $92 per tonne to $75 per tonne.
> > > >The company is also signalling a further
> > substantial drop in 
> > > the price 
> > > >paid for clear glass cullett (effective on May 1)
> > from $75 
> > > per tonne to 
> > > >$10 per tonne.
> > > >The price drops will have major repercussions on
> > the 
> > > economic viability of 
> > > >local government and community group glass
> > recycling schemes 
> > > around the 
> > > >country, says Zero Waste New Zealand Trust chief
> > executive, 
> > > Jo Knight.
> > > >In the short term, contractors and community
> > groups will be 
> > > looking at 
> > > >renegotiating contracts with their councils.
> > > >  "This will put the assurances made in the
> > Packaging Accord to the 
> > > > test.  Fifty per cent of councils in New Zealand
> > signed up to the 
> > > > Packaging Accord on the proviso that it was not
> > going to 
> > > cost them more."
> > > >The Packaging Council is meeting to try and put
> > in place 
> > > some short and 
> > > >long term solutions, but they have a very short
> > time span in 
> > > which to work 
> > > >before the price changes come into effect.
> > > >"This is a nasty surprise for all parties, and
> > the short 
> > > time frame means 
> > > >there is a need for interim co-operative
> > solutions, such as 
> > > collecting and 
> > > >land-banking glass in the meantime.  This is a
> > strong case 
> > > for extended 
> > > >producer responsibility and/or container deposit 
> > > legislation, in the New 
> > > >Year," says Jo.
> > > >This problem illustrates New Zealand's
> > vulnerability to 
> > > market forces and 
> > > >the real need for an adequately funded flexible 
> > > infrastructure, including 
> > > >over-arching waste legislation.
> > > >"The worst case scenario is a breakdown in glass
> > recycling 
> > > in New Zealand 
> > > >with an increase in glass to landfill.  Although
> > glass is an inert 
> > > >material in a landfill, recycling glass is a
> > behavioural 
> > > change that was 
> > > >hard to achieve and it would be a devastating
> > backward step, 
> > > if that was 
> > > >lost," she says.
> > > >
> > > >Please email us with your views.
> > > >
> > > >Best Regards,
> > > >Suzi Phillips
> > > >Communications Co-ordinator,
> > > >Zero Waste NZ Trust
> > > >PO Box 33 1695
> > > >Takapuna
> > > >Auckland
> > > >Ph 09-486-0738
> > > 
> > > Gary Liss
> > > 916-652-7850
> > > Fax: 916-652-0485
> > > www.garyliss.com 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
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