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Re: [GreenYes] Grocery Bags

 regarding:::  Jeff Elder Wrote:

>"Curious, does anyone know what actually happens to the plastic bag

>collections that grocery stores have?"       .............The plastic bags recycled at the stores I work for are used by Boise Cascade to make a wood/polymer lumber material (50% plastic film and 50% recycled wood). Sue Williams

>From: Bob and Camille Armantrout
>Reply-To: Bob and Camille Armantrout
>To: GreenYes
>Subject: [GreenYes] Grocery Bags
>Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:20:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Jeff Elder Wrote:
>"Curious, does anyone know what actually happens to the plastic bag
>collections that grocery stores have?"
>
>On Maui, we there is a collection box for bags inside Wal-Mart.
>However, since Maui Recycling Service has the contract for picking up
>the recovered bags in the dumpster out back, I can say that those bags
>never make it to the dumpster. It is always empty despite repeated
>calls to Wal-Mart.
>
>Further, should the bags eventually make it to the processor; they will
>ultimately end up in the landfill. The local plastic processor sorts
>out plastic bottles (beverages, milk jugs and laundry bottles) for
>baling and landfills the rest. Therefore, no recycled grocery bags on
>Maui actually get recycled.
>
>In other words, our local Wal-Martís plastic grocery bag recovery
>program is a farce and unfortunately, we are part of it. Can you say
>"green washing?"
>
>Camille Armantrout - Maui Recycling Service
>
>Roger M. Guttentag Wrote:
>
>"As a final comment, the environmentally superior solution would a
>reusable shopping bag. One idea that I have, which I have not seen
>implemented (though I would be interested in knowing if it has been
>done) would be for the store to develop a branded shopping bag (one
>with its name and logo) that it could sell but then give a small rebate
>to the consumer each time it was used. Perhaps a barcode could be
>attached to the bag so it was scan able for the purpose of both
>awarding the rebate and tracking customer bag reuse patterns."
>
>I agree that reusable shopping bags are the solution. However, I don't
>think they should not have a store logo on them. Most people shop at
>more than one store and would feel self-conscious about bringing a
>Safeway bag into Wal-Mart, for instance.
>
>We bought all purpose (washable) cotton bags from http://ecobags.com/
>and use them in ALL the stores we frequent. We bought the string
>market bags and the produce bags which we use for bulk food like beans
>and pasta as well as vegetables. They are washable and attractive.
>
>Forgetting to bring them into the store can be a problem, but we are
>improving with time. If we do forget and arenít buying much, we carry
>it out in our hands. We reuse the few bags we do end up with for trash
>and for staging recyclables.
>
>I like the idea of charging 5 cents per bag in the store. The store
>could sell unmarked, reusable bags at the checkout counters. In order
>for this to work, ALL the stores must do this or else individual stores
>will waive the bag fee in the name of customer service. That 5 cents
>would be the most effective motivation for people to change their
>shopping habits. You have to make it hard to do the wrong thing and
>easy to do the right thing.
>
>Camille Armantrout - Maui Recycling Service
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