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From: RecycleWorlds <anderson@msn.fullfeed.com> 
To: jtrnet@valley.rtpnc.epa.gov  
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:56 AM 
Subject: Re: JTRNET digest 638
Mike McGonagle writes in regard to the running 
controversy over the proposed study design by three EPA 
economists to determine the true cost of landfilling.
"Unfortunately, the uncertainty surrounding such 
damages  makes it extremely difficult to estimate these 
external costs. In fact, it is these uncertainties that 
probably lead to less than optimal host community fees in 
some cases. Arguably though, some of these costs are 
captured through the potential liability for future costs 
associated with such damages and by RCRA regulations 
requiring landfill operators to set aside funds for post 
closure maintenance.  I'm not trying to argue that these 
mechanisms sufficiently account for such costs; previous 
discussions on this list regarding RCRA point out some 
significant flaws. However, I would suggest that there is a 
significant portion of these costs accounted for by our 
current policies and system of legal recourse.
The National Recycling Coalition Policy Workgroup 
which I chair has been studying this issue extensively 
over the past year.  It has been our conclusion, based in 
significant part upon the statements by EPA's own 
technical experts during the development of 40 CFR 258 
(the Subtitle D MSW landfill regulations) -- before the 
final political compromises in the ultimate rules where 
overlaid over that technical evaluation -- that the only 
thing which the liner and cap barriers, leachate and gas 
removal and monitoring systems accomplish (if done 
properly) is delay the onset of environmental impacts for 
some period of time after closure hopefully after the 
financial assurance instruments no longer are required to 
be maintained. But that length of time is a small fraction 
of the time the waste load remains a threat to the 
environment. Effectively our policy of SHORT TERM 
isolation we have moved out in time enormous 
environmental impacts from our kids and left them for 
our grandkids. It may very well be among the worst 
possible solutions by acting to deliberately isolate waste 
during the time the load is being monitored and 
supervised and pushed most of the decomposition and 
leachate/gas generation activity out to a time when there 
is not likely to be anyone responsible to care for the 
attendant problems. Don't misunderstand us though. We 
are not intending to be critical of EPA. At the time, they 
moved the ball very far from where it had been before 
when the country was dotted by unengineered dumps and 
open burning.  It's just that now that we've had 10 years 
to reexamine how well we've done, it's time to move to 
the next stage. Hopefully, that can be done without 
political compromises that the agency had to make in 
1991 that undermine necessary  environmental protection.
That is to say, if one does not discount impacts on future 
generations as irrelevant to us today, it is not the case that 
the RCRA rules account for "a significant portion of 
these costs".  They account for very few of them.
Resolving this fatal flaw ought not be all that 
complicated.  What needs to be done is not an endless 
series of regression modeling preceded by much 
econometric teeth gnashing.  We need to proceed post 
haste to figure out what brand new environmental 
strategy ought to be used for our waste stream.  The 
answer seems to lead to some program that would bar 
land disposal of organic material that is the source of the 
leachate and gas generation.
>From there the question will probably divide between 
some form of waste-style pretreatment of the discarded 
MSW stream (whether in site or above ground) or 
separation and composting.  That is where we think the 
debate should focus.
Some of our statements to EPA in this regard are posted 
on our web page www.nrc-recycle.org.
    Peter [Anderson]
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