McGowan ,  I believe that you are confusing issues here.  I am talking about 
throw-aways and incentives for recycling, not incentives for purchasing 
products with recycled content.  
However, I do believe that the challenge of recycling in the 21st century is 
to get people to think about their buying habits.  I dont think people think 
about packaging when they make a purchase. PAYT offers an incentive for 
shoppers to think about what they are buying, and change buying habits to 
accomodate the local recycling system.  If my town does not take juice 
containers, maybe I'll buy juice concentrate in an aluminum can.  
We have 10,000 choices in the grocery, why not add recyclability to the mix?  
And how can we do that?  By affecting the "household bottom line."  
Furthermore, this process opens up other avenues of lowering overall 
environmental impact.  For example, to make recycling easier, people may 
choose more simply packaged items.  I.e., something packaged just in a bag is 
easier to dispose than something in a tray, in a wrap and then in a bag. 
Assuming that quality remains the same, the lower packaged material may 
become the preference.  
Others have sufficiently addressed the issue of PAYT as a user fee system.  I 
share your concerns about how a fellow on $16,000 per year salary can "make 
it," but I don't think PAYT will have such a great impact in the negative, 
in-fact, I believe it could have a positive effect.  The  reducing the 
overall monthly disposal fee burden.
Jesse White
Resource Management Group, Inc.
941-358-7730
In a message dated 10/07/1999 12:30:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
kai@umail.ucsb.edu writes:
<< What Jesse fails to mention is that PAYT is an incredibly REGRESSIVE tax
 on the poor,  who can ill-afford products that are specially packaged in
 recycled-content packaging.  One of the great ironies of the recycling
 movement is that political forces that created government prefernec
 programs put aboslutely zero effort into making sure that recycled content
 products get preference when they are cost competitive.  Since there is no
 incentive to lower prices of recycled content packaging--why should
 manufacturers give up a profit the government is creating set-asides
 for?--the cost of recycled content material is often more expensive than
 virgin materials
 
 --
 William P. McGowan
 UCSB History/Rincon Recycling
 805-240-3448/805-658-6526-FAX
 kai@umail.ucsb.edu >>