GreenYes Digest V98 #253

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GreenYes Digest Tue, 1 Dec 98 Volume 98 : Issue 253

Today's Topics:
Action: 12/31/98
HDPE barrel/drum recycling
Milk Bottles - Dean Chug

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:41:02 -0700
From: Eric Lombardi <>

At 02:13 AM 11/23/98 EST, you wrote:
>Hi, this is Karl, the CU student confused about Coke's recycling of other
>material and contribution to other environmental aspects. I brought up the
>article to my political science class which deals with environmental
issues in
>politics, and my teacher added that Pepsi does not use recycled plastic as
>well. Their not attacked like coke is because they did not make a promise.
>So it seems like their as equally as guilty as Coca-Cola in this whole
>issue. Other students guessed why Pepsi isn't attacked because they sponser
>CU, which, I may add, is not true (but remember, it was only a guess). So,
>again, I'm confused, confused of whether I should ban Pepsi as well as Coca-
>Cola? Both competitors should be treated the same if neither is using
>recycled plastic, whether or not both made a promise or not.
>Karl Freiburghaus
>CU student

Hi Karl,

I appreciate your interest in this issue ... and your
questions are good ones ... so here's some responses...
(I don't know whether or not you have recieved back
anything from anyone else)

First, by way of introduction, I am the Executive
Director of EcoCycle here in Boulder... your local
community recycling organization. I am also one of
the founders of the national GrassRoots Recycling
Network and creators of the Coke campaign.

We started the GRRN in the Spring of 1997, and one of
our "platforms" was a new concept called ZeroWaste.
One important tactic to achieve this goal is called
"extended producer responsibility" (EPR) which says that
the producer of a "waste" product (such as an empty
postconsumer plastic soda bottle) is responsible to
participate in the final disposition of that item.
This idea of EPR is law in Europe, and GRRN feels that
EPR would be good for the USA also.

After a weekend retreat in Georgia last year, a group
of very talented "social change agents" (ie. organizers
from all over the country with decades of experience)
made some decisions ... one of them was to select Coke
as our target to raise the EPR issue and educate people
about why it is necessary. We do not agree, for many
reasons, that "both competitors should be treated the
same"... as you put it. I understand your desire for
fairness, but in the hard world of power and social
change, fairness isn't really the issue.

I suggest you read a book
called "Rules For Radicals" by Saul Alinsky. There
are many ways to try and change the world, and Alinsky
is one of the masters.


Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:17:29 EST
Subject: Action: 12/31/98

The California Resource Recovery Association 1999 Annual Membership Directory
is coming. This is a great advertising opportunity. The directory will be
mailed to 1000 businesses, government agencies, recyclers and non-fpr-profits
in the state of California.

Rates are very reasonable.

For more information, please contact Judi Gregory at,
626-339-9555 or Grahame Watts @,


Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:13:27 -0600
From: SEMREX <>
Subject: HDPE barrel/drum recycling

SEMREX is assessing the feasibility of collecting HDPE barrels and drums
to be reused and /or recycled in a primarily rural region. The key
obstacle to recycling HDPE buckets and drums seems to be is their bulky
size - expensive to transport and too large to go through most
processing facilities' equipment. If anyone has expertise with barrel
and drum recycling: How successful was it? What kind of volumes were
you able to access? What were the challenges? What processing was
done?(splitting or sawing the drums, baling them, shredding?) What
equipment was used? Potential markets?

Thank you for your insights!
Susan Waughtal
SEMREX Director
856 5th Ave. SE
Rochester, MN 55904
Ph: 507/252-0750
email: <>


Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:25:50 -0600
From: "RecycleWorlds" <>
Subject: Milk Bottles - Dean Chug

According to the 11/30/98 Plastics News:

"Dean Foods has begun testing aimed at replacing the PVC with
glycol-modified PET for labels on its Milk Chug polyethylene bottles.
"In addition, Dean is working with suppliers to create wraparound
labels for its half gallon and gallon containers. The company hopes the
wraparound labels will privde a bolder brand identity. In addition, Dean
and other companies could take advantage of promotional opportunities such
as coupons, on the labels." [i.e. this is the LDPE snap on label that does
not require any adhesive].

This is the precise recommendation that the Plastic Redesign Project
made to Dean last fall.

Peter Anderson
RecycleWorlds Consulting
4513 Vernon Blvd. Ste. 15
Madison, WI 53705-4964
Phone:(608) 231-1100/Fax: (608) 233-0011


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