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Fwd: Re: questions on cement kiln fuels from hazardous wastes
GreenYes Digest V97 #175
Heavy metal toxics in wastestream and Wisconsin Exxon mining
Is Something "Blowing In the Wind"
Is Something Blowing In the Wind
Landfill in a Tube
Landfill surcharges (4 msgs)
questions on cement kiln fuels from hazardous wastes
Southeastern Composting Association
Support Arcata Community Recycling Center!
Toxicity
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:31:45 -0400
From: "Blair Pollock" <bpollock@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us>
Subject: composting meeting
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>
>For all those composteurs out there, a composting conference in North
>Carolina:
>
>The SouthEastern Composting Association (SECA for short) is..... you!
>That is to say that it is an association of individuals such as
>yourselves who are assembling for the purpose of meeting one another,
>building lasting professional relationships with others in composting,
>establishing a network of contacts for future information sharing and
>support, and staying current on what is going on where...across your
>states, across the region, and ultimately around the U.S.. But, at
>whatever level the S.E.C.A. is about you and your needs as a composting
>industry professional. There is only one class of membership and THAT is
>for the individual. It's also free. It is anticipated that very soon
>there will be other regional organizations such as N.E.C.A., N.W.C.A.,
>M.W.C.A, W.C.A., $ P.C.A....and we welcome those interested in attending
>our initial southeastern meeting. We are NOT in competition with ANY
>other association whether trade or professional!
>
>The October 23 & 24 meeting in Lake Lure, North Carolina will consist of
>speakers from the primary U.S. Government agencies involved in
>composting, speakers from sevral of the major southeastern universities
>involved in composting research and education, several interactive
>sessions concerning composting issues, breakout sessions for discussion,
>initial organizational activities, and information sharing to be taken
>back to the individual state groups. SECA will initially consist of the
>states of VA, W.VA., KY, N.C., S.C., GA, FLA, AL, TN, ARK, OK, TX, LA,
>MS.
>
>As this is a very low key, informal function all travel, lodging, and
>meals will be up to the individual. This being a beautiful and desirable
>location to visit during the fall leaf season, it is recommended that
>you make your reservations TODAY! Any offers to assist or otherwise in
>the logistics of this conference will be gratefully appreciated. Please
>help us to get word of this out to YOUR states as there will be NO
>advertising or mailouts.Please feel free to call or write for questions.
>Clarence W. "LARRY" Walker
>--
>From: "Clarence W. Walker" <atlintlcom@mindspring.com>
>
>Atlanta International Communications,Inc./Sales Reps. & Consulting Svcs.
>See our web site! Updated 07-14-97 http://www.mindspring.com/~atlintlcom
>Indust., Commercial, Muni., and Agri. Waste Processing Systems & Eqpt.
>7500 Spalding Lane, Atlanta, Georgia 30350
>phone 770-392-1313 fax 770 392-0078 email: atlintlcom@mindspring.com
>New equipment lines, systems, and project inquiries always considered.
>
>__________________________________
>Forwarded from:
>Peter Ray
>Center for Urban and Regional Studies
>University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>Campus Box # 3410
>Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3410
>(919) 962-7045
>fax: (919) 962-2518
>ray.curs@mhs.unc.edu
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:46:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jenhyde101@aol.com
Subject: Diversity within SRO
Our state recycling organization, MassRecycle, is concerned about the lack of
diversity among our membership and a small group of us has met to try to deal
with this issue. Are there other SRO's out there or other recycling
organizations that have tried to combat this problem?
Thanks
Jennifer Hyde
Sustainable Solutions
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 21:39:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: DavidOrr@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: questions on cement kiln fuels from hazardous wastes
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Forwarded message:
Subj: Re: questions on cement kiln fuels from hazardous wastes
Date: 97-07-23 20:28:27 EDT
From: EarthSciKE
To: DavidOrr
Why is everything a scam? You probably know that cement kilns have to comply
with the BIF regs and are monitored as tightly as incinerators. The days of
painting industry as evil polluters is over. Legitimate recycling should be
supported by environmentalist like yourself!! Instead, you feel that
somebody is getting away from government control (a liberal political view
more perhaps). We will never get away from landfills and treatment (which
often increases the amount of waste to be disposed) unless we mature and
encouarge innovative technologies trying to do legitimate recycling.
It is ironic that legitimate recycling comes under attach from
environmentalists. Are you getting desparate for a bad guy target??
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:26:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: michele@raymond.com (Michele Raymond)
Subject: GreenYes Digest V97 #175
To John Rindl
I strongly suggest you find the bugdet to get the 1997 State Recycling Laws
Update Year-End Edition. Its just $99 cash.
I look at all kinds of options in my state survey
Surcharges are the most effective but nobody has the political will to
increase them.
The idea in Europe is to tax pollution INSTEAD OF LABOR.
Thank about that one. REDUCE your state income tax but Tax the landfills.
It makes some sense to me, and England is trying to do this.
Oh and on toxics in waste stream, you folks should call Minnesota they have
done the most in that area policy wise.
Michele Raymond
State Recycling Laws Update
http://www.raymond.com/recycle
Thae Take it Back! Conference is now set for Nov. 17-18, Alexandria VA.
FREE Producer Responsibility forum on the 18th.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:11:52 +0100
From: mappelho@madison.tdsnet.com (Mary Appelhof)
Subject: Heavy metal toxics in wastestream and Wisconsin Exxon mining
RE:
"Why have Exxon, Rio Algom, RTZ, Kennecott, Inmet, Broken Bill
Proprietaries, and other transnational mining corporations invested so
much in subverting democracy in Wisconsin? Because, as always, there's
a quick buck to be made - In the case of the mining industry, a quick
five to ten billion bucks to be made. Mining corporations are crawling
all over Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, and Ontario these days, hoping
to extract from the deep rock of the Laurentian Shield, and other
related geologic formations, a mineral wealth which for millenia has
lain untouched beneath the surface - Copper, gold, uranium, zinc, lead,
mercury, arsenic, chromium, and sulfides - Metallic sulfide ores."
Aren't these the same metals which are contaminating the waste stream so
extensively? Why go for them in this fashion when they are in every city,
town, and landfill as so eloquently stated by active participants in this
list?
Mary Appelhof
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:02:34 -0500
From: RecycleWorlds <anderson@msn.fullfeed.com>
Subject: Is Something "Blowing In the Wind"
On July 11th, I posted a summary of an article in the Wall Street =
Journal that day that described ay Anderson and his carpet company =
Interface that revived its fortunes when an employee dropped a copy of =
Hawken's "The Ecology of Commerce" on Anderson's desk.=20
Then in the July 16th Wall Street Journal, there was another article in =
the WSJ entitled "In Times Square It May Pay to Be Green," about the =
marketing advantages of "green" office space in Times Square, and, again =
on the 17th, an article entitled "Oil Companies Strive to Turn a New =
Leaf To Save Rain Forest," about the impact of adverse consumer reaction =
to their transgressions in the third world.
...yes, in the Wall Street Journal.
Is this a bellweather of another turn in public attitudes? If it is, is =
it coincidental that the perceived public attitudes towards these issues =
has fallen and risen in lockstep with Speaker Gingrich's rise and fall?
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:50:39 -0500
From: RecycleWorlds <anderson@msn.fullfeed.com>
Subject: Is Something Blowing In the Wind
On July 11th, I posted a summary of an article in the Wall Street =
Journal that day that described ay Anderson and his carpet company =
Interface that revived its fortunes when an employee dropped a copy of =
Hawken's "The Ecology of Commerce" on Anderson's desk.=20
Then in the July 16th Wall Street Journal, there was another article in =
the WSJ entitled "In Times Square It May Pay to Be Green," about the =
marketing advantages of "green" office space in Times Square, and, again =
on the 17th, an article entitled "Oil Companies Strive to Turn a New =
Leaf To Save Rain Forest," about the impact of adverse consumer reaction =
to their transgressions in the third world.
...yes, in the Wall Street Journal.
Is this a bellweather of another turn in public attitudes? If it is, is =
it coincidental that the perceived public attitudes towards these issues =
has fallen and risen in lockstep with Speaker Gingrich's rise and fall?
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:04:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: STEVESUESS@aol.com
Subject: Landfill in a Tube
Dear Susan K. Snow & Jim McNelly,
I was facinated by the detailsin Jims article on composting vs.
landfilling and the heavy metal problems....
As a plastics recycler I am often confronted with the reality that it is
often the additives that make plastics toxic rather than the plastic itself
(Not all plastics of course). I've always felt that in a perfect world in
which some plastics exist we would - make plastics from vegitable oils, and
only those kinds that do not decay into troxic monomers such as vinyl, and
not add toxic additives such as lead, and reuse and recycle as much as
possible. After as much reuse and cascading as possible we would pyrolyze or
even burn the remaining left over and would be able to do so safely as
nothing toxic was in it.
It seems to me that much of the fear of composting the entire waste
stream hinges around the same fear of contamination by toxics which we seem
to insist on spreading around all over the place.
As chair of the CRRA ZERO WASTE conferene we seek a Zero Waste world,
and a part of that ought to be the elimination of putting toxics into our
biosphere. With such a goal we might well arrive to a point in time when
these are gone, and then the complexities of what to do with waste become
much much easier - it can all be safely composted or recycled....
In conclusion - This example highlights the fact that these little
batteries exist in the waste stream and thus makes it much harder to compost
the organic part of the waste stream. This means we spend much more money in
handling this waste stream than we would if there were no such batteries in
it! Lets carry this logic out and fight to eliminate anything toxic from the
waste stream, which would then save tons of money in recycling, landiflling,
etc. costs! At the least we should fight to include this extra cost we are
incurring inhandling these toxics in the cost of those toxic containing
materials and stop subsidizing their disposal! hmmmm....
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:04:55 -0600
From: "John Reindl 608-267-8815" <reindl@co.dane.wi.us>
Subject: Landfill surcharges
Paul -
Thanks for the information; this is exactly what I was looking for.
Unfortunately, we don't have a vote initiative in Wisconsin, so we have
to go through the Legislature to get a funding source.
Right now, the biggest opponents to the tipping fee idea are the waste
management firms -- they've built a lot of capacity to take
out-of-state waste (three of our neighboring states have substantial
landfill surcharges, making in more economical to come to Wisconsin) --
and our major city, which is near its state-imposed expenditure limit
and to pay a tipping fee would have to cut back on other expenditures.
Thanks again; your information will be very helpful.
John
> From: LISAPAUL@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:48:17 -0400 (EDT)
> To: reindl@co.dane.wi.us
> Subject: Re: Landfill surcharges
> Though not in the past 3 years, Alameda County (CA) imposed a $6/ton
> recycling surcharge on county landfills in 1991(?). The revenues from the
> surcharge flow back to the county and municipalities for (only) support of
> recycling. This surcharge was the result of a voter initiative. For info,
> contact Tom Padia at the Alameda County Waste Management Authority (San
> Leandro, CA).
>
> Paul Brown
>
reindl@co.dane.wi.us
(608)267-1533 - fax
(608)267-8815 - phone
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:13:25 -0600
From: "John Reindl 608-267-8815" <reindl@co.dane.wi.us>
Subject: Landfill surcharges
Jesse -
Thanks very much for this information, especially the detailed
citiations to the California legislation. The link worked perfectly in
clicking on the webpage address and getting the home page.
I appreciate your help!
John
> From: "Adams, Jesse" <jadams@CIWMB.ca.gov>
> To: "'reindl@co.dane.wi.us'" <reindl@co.dane.wi.us>
> Subject: RE: Landfill surcharges
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:02:03 -0700
> http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
>
> John,
>
> Look up the following CA code sections at the above address, If I did it
> right you may just be able to click on the address and go right to the
> page if your system is set up to handle this hi-tech stuff....I'm
> usually lucky if I can get my workstation turned on in the
> morning....;-):
>
> Public Resources Code Sections 47901-47902, 48000-48008
> Revenue and Taxation Code Sections 45001-45984
>
> you may find some helpful info there.
>
> Jesse Adams
> Project Recycle
> California Integrated Waste Management Board
> Sacramento
>
reindl@co.dane.wi.us
(608)267-1533 - fax
(608)267-8815 - phone
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:16:54 -0600
From: "John Reindl 608-267-8815" <reindl@co.dane.wi.us>
Subject: Landfill surcharges
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:43:21 -0700
From: Ann Schneider <aschneid@cats.ucsc.edu>
Reply-to: aschneid@cats.ucsc.edu
Organization: BEAC
To: reindl@co.dane.wi.us
Subject: Re: Landfill surcharges
Hi John:
Alameda County in California passed a citizen initiative several years
ago called "Measure D'. It placed a $6.00 per ton surcharge on each
ton disposed of at the major landfill in the county. The funds aree
used for a large range of source reduction, reuse and recycling
programs. Best contact for history is Ruth Abbe at 510 521-0505. I'm
sure she is on email but I don't have her address. Ruth was a prime
mover is passing Measure D. And until this year sat on the Advisory
Board.
The City of San Jose also has what they call the Landfill Disposal Tax
(DFT), which is a modified Business License tax. It is $13.00 ton and
funds going to the City's General Fund. Best contact is Skip Lacase
at 408 277-5533.
Good luck.
Ann Schneider
UC Santa Cruz
Business Environmental Assistance Ctr.
> is Tom Padia at 510 John Reindl 608-267-8815 wrote:
>
> Does anyone have information about surcharges that have been
> imposed by state or local governments on landfills in the last three
> years as a method of either discouraging the use of landfills or for
> providing funding for waste reduction and recycling? This method of
> funding is being pushed by a number of legislators and local units of
> government for financing Wisconsin's recycling program, and I am
> gathering information of what other states and municipalities have in
> effect. I have North Carolina's report on financing methods for
> FY1993-94, and am looking for more recent measures.
>
> Thanks much!
>
> John Reindl, Recycling Manager
> Dane County, WI
>
> reindl@co.dane.wi.us
reindl@co.dane.wi.us
(608)267-1533 - fax
(608)267-8815 - phone
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:46:22
From: John McCabe <mccab#j@oak2.ci.oakland.ca.us>
Subject: Landfill surcharges
Not sure what's in the North Carolina Report. In Alameda County
(California - home to Oakland), *voters* (not state or local governments)
approved Measue D in 1990, which put a $6.00 per ton surcharge on waste
disposed in landfills in unincorporated Alameda County. Due to legal
challenges, it did not become fully enacted until 1993. For more
information, call the Alameda County Source Reduction and Recycling Board
at 510-614-1699 or visit their web site at www.stopwaste.org.
I believe Santa Clara County (California - home to San Jose) also has a
per-ton surcharge. They're at 408-441-1198; this may also be true for the
City of San Jose itself (408-277-5533; some documents available through the
Center for Development of Recycling, 408-924-5453).
>Does anyone have information about surcharges that have been
>imposed by state or local governments on landfills in the last three
>years as a method of either discouraging the use of landfills or for
>providing funding for waste reduction and recycling?....
>I have North Carolina's report on financing methods for
>FY1993-94, and am looking for more recent measures.
>
>John Reindl, Recycling Manager
>Dane County, WI
............................................................................
...............................................................
John McCabe, Recycling Specialist
City of Oakland Public Works Agency, Environmental Services Division
(510) 238-SAVE (general line), mccab#j@oak2.ci.oakland.ca.us
This is my "official" City of Oakland account.
............................................................................
...............................................................
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:36:51 -0500
From: "Susan K. Snow" <sksnow@1stnet.com>
Subject: questions on cement kiln fuels from hazardous wastes
Blair,
I received the information that waste from cement kiln kilns, and other
hazardous sources, was used in fertilizer in <Part I: Spreading Heavy
Metals on Farm Lands> where I read of ash from cement kilns going into
fertilizer of the Seattle Times article, FEAR IN THE FIELDS
http://www.seattletimes.com/todaysnews/special.html#fields
Under the subtitle:
Recycling said to have benefits
The author writes:
**Any material that has fertilizing qualities can be labeled and used as
a fertilizer, even if it contains dangerous chemicals and heavy metals.
The wastes come from iron, zinc and aluminum smelting, mining, cement
kilns, the burning of medical and municipal wastes, wood-product
slurries and a variety of other heavy industries.**
I have also personally communicated with some people on the Wastenot
online forum. However, it must be noted that even though I have a paper
copy of the Seattle Times article, I have no other documentation.
In addition, a friend lives near the Laidlaw <recycling> operation in
Crowley, Louisiana. When they collect household hazardous wastes in our
community, those materials are blended into motor oil and whatever else
at Laidlaw/GSX from there, it is my understanding, they are sent to
cement kilns, offshore ships and other sources looking for cheap fuel.
These companies under the pretense on recycling, are poisoning the air,
food chain, waters even before their ash residue is sent to fertilizer
companies. Cement is not permanent; it cracks and ultimately turns to
dust, further polluting the environment. This is SHAM RECYCLING and
it's not regulated, nor is the pollution controlled, from what I
understand.
Susan Snow
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:46:56 -0400
From: "Blair Pollock" <bpollock@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us>
Subject: Southeastern Composting Association
>
>For all those composteurs out there, a composting conference in North
>Carolina:
>
>The SouthEastern Composting Association (SECA for short) is..... you!
>That is to say that it is an association of individuals such as
>yourselves who are assembling for the purpose of meeting one another,
>building lasting professional relationships with others in composting,
>establishing a network of contacts for future information sharing and
>support, and staying current on what is going on where...across your
>states, across the region, and ultimately around the U.S.. But, at
>whatever level the S.E.C.A. is about you and your needs as a composting
>industry professional. There is only one class of membership and THAT is
>for the individual. It's also free. It is anticipated that very soon
>there will be other regional organizations such as N.E.C.A., N.W.C.A.,
>M.W.C.A, W.C.A., $ P.C.A....and we welcome those interested in attending
>our initial southeastern meeting. We are NOT in competition with ANY
>other association whether trade or professional!
>
>The October 23 & 24 meeting in Lake Lure, North Carolina will consist of
>speakers from the primary U.S. Government agencies involved in
>composting, speakers from sevral of the major southeastern universities
>involved in composting research and education, several interactive
>sessions concerning composting issues, breakout sessions for discussion,
>initial organizational activities, and information sharing to be taken
>back to the individual state groups. SECA will initially consist of the
>states of VA, W.VA., KY, N.C., S.C., GA, FLA, AL, TN, ARK, OK, TX, LA,
>MS.
>
>As this is a very low key, informal function all travel, lodging, and
>meals will be up to the individual. This being a beautiful and desirable
>location to visit during the fall leaf season, it is recommended that
>you make your reservations TODAY! Any offers to assist or otherwise in
>the logistics of this conference will be gratefully appreciated. Please
>help us to get word of this out to YOUR states as there will be NO
>advertising or mailouts.Please feel free to call or write for questions.
>Clarence W. "LARRY" Walker
>--
>From: "Clarence W. Walker" <atlintlcom@mindspring.com>
>
>Atlanta International Communications,Inc./Sales Reps. & Consulting Svcs.
>See our web site! Updated 07-14-97 http://www.mindspring.com/~atlintlcom
>Indust., Commercial, Muni., and Agri. Waste Processing Systems & Eqpt.
>7500 Spalding Lane, Atlanta, Georgia 30350
>phone 770-392-1313 fax 770 392-0078 email: atlintlcom@mindspring.com
>New equipment lines, systems, and project inquiries always considered.
>
>__________________________________
>Forwarded from:
>Peter Ray
>Center for Urban and Regional Studies
>University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>Campus Box # 3410
>Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3410
>(919) 962-7045
>fax: (919) 962-2518
>ray.curs@mhs.unc.edu
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:21:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David A. Kirkpatrick" <david@kirkworks.com>
Subject: Support Arcata Community Recycling Center!
Grassroots Recycling Network folks -
The Arcata Community Recycling Center is an innovative non-profit community
based recycling organization based in Arcata, CA that is having a real
challenge getting a contract renewal from the new City Council there. Many
of you know of their excellent work, including the development of Fire and
Light - a for-profit spin-off that makes glass tile and pottery from cullet
in a great example of small-scale recycling market development. Please
consider send a letter of support for ACRC. Time is of the essence, so in
addition to mailing a letter to the Mayor and City Council on your
stationery, also fax a copy to Kate Krebs, ACRC Director at fax#
(707)822-1672. If you need any more background, you can contact them at
(707)822-4542 or acrc@humboldt1.com.
Thanks for your help! A copy of the letter that I sent is below.
David Kirkpatrick
___________________________________________________
Mayor Jim Test and Arcata City Council Members June 17, 1997
736 F Street
Arcata, CA 89921
Dear Mayor Test and City Council Members:
I am writing in support of the Arcata Community Recycling Center. I have
been aware of Arcata's recycling work for many years and of the pioneering
work of the Center. Most recently, as a recycling economic developer, I
have been impressed by the creation of Fire and Light as an innovative new
venture to utilize recovered glass. Indeed, this week I am conducting
training workshops across California for the California Integrated Waste
Management Board, and Fire and Light and ACRC were featured businesses and
presenters at our workshop in Redding for all of the northern part of the state.
I helped to found SunShares, a community-based recycling operation similar
to the Center and based in Durham, NC. After serving as Executive Director
for many years and overseeing our expansion from 2 to 50 staff, I moved on
in 1994 to form KirkWorks, my recycling economic development firm.
I understand that Durham's program has been mentioned as an example of a
locale where curbside recycling has been instituted effectively eliminated
the need for drop-off centers. I wanted to correct this misconception. We
started offering multi-material recycling centers in Durham in the early
1980's, as a cost-effective way to recover materials. When we expanded
curbside recycling in the city under contract in 1988-1990, we continued and
even expanded recycling centers. We found that the recycling centers
continued to receive the same or greater amounts of materials as curbside
collection expanded throughout the city. The centers provided an outlet for
residents who forgot their curbside recycling day, found drop-off recycling
more convenient, lived in apartments, or decided to recycle the broader
range of materials available at the centers.
As you consider expanding into curbside recycling, I encourage you to
continue and strengthen your recycling center program and to utilize the
expertise and processing capacity of the Arcata Community Recycling Center
to handle additional processing needs for the curbside materials. As
markets for more and more recovered materials open up and new enterprises
are started in your region, you will want to make waste reduction, reuse,
recycling and composting as easy as possible for your citizens while
gradually making mixed waste disposal more costly.
Across the country, community-based recycling enterprises like SunShares in
Durham, EcoCycle in Boulder, CO and ACRC in Arcata are known as innovators
that pursue a mission of resource conservation that goes beyond the profit
motivation of most waste collectors and recycling processors. Cities and
regions without such nonprofits are the poorer for it, and often inquire
about the secret of our success. Please realize the jewel that you have in
your community and build on their expertise and long term educational
outreach to your citizens.
Sincerely,
David Kirkpatrick
---------------------------------------
KirkWorks
good works for the good earth
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Address: Post Office Box 15062
Durham, NC 27704-0062
Voice: 919/220-8065
Fax: 919/220-9720
Email: david@kirkworks.com
Website: http://www.kirkworks.com
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:18:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: RESRECYCLE@aol.com
Subject: Toxicity
I join Steve Suess in enjoying (and being educated by) the discussion of
toxicity. However, I find some irony in that the discussion is presented to
me over my computer, one of mankinds more "toxic" manufactured items. For
example, reportedly the manufacture of a Pentium chip generates 4,500 times
the chip's weight in hazardous wastes. There's also mention in the
literature discussing what nasties are in broken-down computers, cathode-ray
tubes, telecommunications links, etc. As a magazine publisher, I'm certainly
aware of the well-deserved criticisms of my industry regarding the toxic inks
some publishers use. But, as a computer user, I'm also now much more aware
of the environmental
problems created by making and discarding computers.
Jerry Powell
Computer user
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 97 15:52:28 PST
From: debbie.neustadt@sfsierra.sierraclub.org
Subject: when hazardous wastes are recycled...
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
I have seen information and talked to individuals regarding the practice of
putting heavy metals in feed for animals. This is another practice that is
done to use the recycling exemption.
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