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GreenYes Digest Wed, 10 Dec 97 Volume 97 : Issue 300

Today's Topics:
CD-ROM recycling resource
Help wanted in locating report name and other references of toxics in fossil
fuels
Junk Mail
Landfills biggest source of methane in England
Mining/Oil Drilling Absurdities
need info on a Co. called CARS
Recycling Conference at Tulane
Source Reduction Extends to Low Level Radioative Waste
Steve and Pat's debate on zero waste
volume vs. weight based garbage collection (3 msgs)
WASTE: Landfills biggest source of methane in England

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:39:29 -0800 (PST) From: Boston CWA 486 <bostoncwa@cleanwater.org> Subject: CD-ROM recycling resource

http://www.crazybob.com/recycle.html

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Download ERM's Complete Guide to Recycling=20

Do you have any Memory ( 256K to 32MEG ( any configuration )), CPU's, Boards= or Systems. Let ERM Recycle these items for you. Dont polute the local land fill with these items and pay to get ridof them or fill up valuable storage space waiting for a need that never appears. Call ERM at 1-800-PRO-JUNK ( 9AM-5PM Eastern time ) and let us pay you, and help you help the enviroment or gain back that storage space. Imediate spot payment for all items.=20

Many materials may be recycled including Computer scrap, diskettes, and CD-ROMs.=20

Although different people see precious metal in different ways, there is one absolute fact: your scrap is worth too much to throw out!=20

If you've been discarding potentially valuable materials, our first word of advise is to STOP. What may appear in your eyes as "too little to bother with" could amount to a substantial sum. We hear the line too often, "Do you know how many hundreds= of thousands of dollars our company has sent to the dump?"=20

As time goes on, more of us are becoming aware of the value of our precious metal bearing scrap. Today's refining technology allows us to feasibly reclaim metals which were previously viewed as non-refinable. The time you spend on your recycling program should return many times your investment.=20

If you've been recycling your material, download this book as a reference. Inside is valuable information on precious metal content, as well as little known facts about material you may have neglected. You can also use this book as a guideline to establishing your recycling program. Don't wait download ERM's Complete Guide to Recycling=20

ERM Inc. And CrazyBoB's=AE

Phone: 1-800-PRO-JUNK [ 776-5865 ]

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Home Page

Copyright =A9 1996 CrazyBoB's=AE=20

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 15:27:54 -0600 From: Susan Snow <sksnow@1stnet.com> Subject: Help wanted in locating report name and other references of toxics in fossil fuels

I have a comparison of metal concentrations in fuels from the California Air Resources Board that was cited in the report entitled, _Burn, Baby, Burn: How to Dispose of Garbage by Polluting Land, Sea and Air at Enormous Cost_ by Elizabeth Holtzman, Comptroller of the City of New York, January 1992.=20

I'm having trouble finding where the original report is cited. But, the data on page A-9 of the Holtzman report says: ''..such metals enter the air or become part of the ash residue.'' Therefore, I assume they speak of the fly ash.=20

Does any one know the name of the original report from the California Air Resources Board and where it can be acquired? Also, does anyone have a documented report citing hydrocarbons and PAHs, including dioxins in the various fossil fuels?

The California Air Resources Report (as used in the Holtzman Report) compares the concentratons of US Coal, Oil, and municipal solid waste for cadmium [not reported in oil], chromium, copper, mercury [not reported in oil], manganese, nickel, lead, and zinc and quantities are reported in ug/MJ. MJ=3Dmillion jewels; 1 jewel=3D 1,054 Btus.

Oil U.S. Coal Solid waste Cadmium not reported 110 702 Chromium 3.2 1,017 15,102 Copper 4.6 510 26,237 Mercury not reported 18.7 166 Manganese 3.6 2,081 15,419 Nickel 251 677 6,380 Lead 13.9 738 39,290 Zinc 17.8 1,582 60,943 =09 I would appreciate any references.

Thanks.

Susan K. Snow

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 23:07:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Roger M. Guttentag" <rgutten@concentric.net> Subject: Junk Mail

At 12:46 PM 12/5/97 -0800, you wrote: >I have been battling junk mail for some time. I was recently cleaning >some files and I found a notice to include with purchases to potential >junk mail offenders. The date on the notice is Oct. 3, 1990. I have >used it in the past to my satisfaction. I will post it for any who are >interested. > >Living in the busy San Francisco Bay Area, I seem to rely more and more >on mail order. (I am too tired at the end of a busy day or week to deal >with stores, traffic, crowds and sales people.) I have managed to keep >the junk mail down to the catalogues and solistations that I want with a >few new intruders. With only a few contenders at a time I fins that I >can easily manage keeping off unwanted lists. > >Myra > >Notice follws: > >TO: FROM: DATE: > >Disposing of unwanted material such as UNSOLICITED MAIL is a serious >problem in my community. I am instructing you not to LEND, SELL or TRDE >my name to any other organization for its mailing lists. > >If you cannot honor my request, please RETURN MY CHECK. Thank you for >you attention to this matter. > >(signature) > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dear Myra:

It would seem appropriate to have the following statement (or something similar to it) actually printed on the back of the check :

" By endorsing this check, the payee agrees not to LEND, SELL or TRADE my name to any other organization for its mailing lists. Further, Payee agrees to pay (name your amount) to the Payer if the Payer can demonstrate the Payee's failure to abide by the terms of this agreement."

Are there any members of the legal profession on the GreenYes list who would care to comment on the legality of this wording or who could propose something more legally effective?

Roger M. Guttentag E-MAIL: rgutten@concentric.net TEL: 215-513-0452 FAX: 215-513-0453

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:03:25 -0600 From: "John Reindl" <reindl@co.dane.wi.us> Subject: Landfills biggest source of methane in England

According to a Web page of methane emissions in Great Britain,=20 landfills are the largest source of emissions in that country,=20 amounting to 46% of the total. In contrast, agriculture is the=20 second biggest source at 29%. The web page is:

http://www.aeat.co.uk/products/centres/netcen/airqual/emissions/ch4.html

Great Britain has imposed a national tax on landfills in part to=20 divert waste from landfills with the intent of reducing the=20 greenhouse effect.

I would be interested in other web pages that list the contribution=20 of landfills to methane emissions in various countries.

John Reindl Recycling Manager Dane County, WI

reindl@co.dane.wi.us (608)267-1533 - fax (608)267-8815 - phone

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:09:49 -0800 (PST) From: "David A. Kirkpatrick" <david@kirkworks.com> Subject: Mining/Oil Drilling Absurdities

GREENLines, Tuesday, Dec. 9, 1997 from GREEN,=20 the GrassRoots Environmental Effectiveness Network,=20 A project of Defenders of Wildlife=20 (505) 277-8302 or email rfeather@defenders.org

MINING "ABSURDITY": A 12/4 editorial in the Grants Pass Courier (OR)=20 decries the "absurdity" of the 1872 Mining Act that allows mining,=20 motorized vehicles and possible development within the Kalmiopsis=20 Wilderness on the Siskiyou National Forest in Oregon. In 1988, two=20 local men purchased 60 acres of mining claims in the wilderness. The=20 Act allows the owners to patent the land and the owners are considering=20 logging it or building a resort. "If Americans don't like that, they=20 might be able to buy the land back and preserve it as wilderness as it=20 was intended to be," the editorial said. "The only catch is the asking=20 price is at least $850,000." The Act allowed the sale of the land for=20 $150.00.

UT DRILLING EXTENSION: AP reported 12/5 the Clinton Administration=20 granted Conoco an extension to drill an exploratory well within the new=20 Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. Although the extension=20 gives Conoco until 2/8/98 to complete tests to determine if it will=20 develop its drilling lease within the monument, it doesn't force the=20 company to begin development in order to hold onto the lease.=20

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:19:59 EST From: Infinrecy <Infinrecy@aol.com> Subject: need info on a Co. called CARS

Here in Maryland, we have a company called Cars of America, which the MD Recyclers Coalition (MRC) visited a few months ago. It was impressive. It had a long line for dissassembly, including a gizmo that turned the car upside-down for easy access. Lots of plastic parts were torn off and baled= for recycling; and there was a huge warehouse for orderly storeage of the many dissassemled parts.(engines, radiators,alternators, transmissions, wheels, front end assembies, doors, etc.) Everything looked very good, and quite busy, although I don't know too much more than what I saw on the half hour tour. =20

ford

<<Hello Green Yessers:

<<Is anyone familiar with the company CARS (Comprehensive Automotive Reclamation Service of Maryland, Inc.)? Recycling professionals and environmentalists in Saint Paul, MN are looking for alternatives to auto shredders in our community. We have seen a promotional video from CARS and learned a bit about their operation of dismantling vehicles which reuses or recycles 95% of the materials. It seems like a great business with exceptional environmental goals. Can anyone offer more information about this business and its social, environmental or community record?

Do you know of other companies in the country who do this?

Thanks for your help.

Hatti Koth, Saint Paul Neighborhood Energy Consortium

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 06:53:44 -0600 From: Alicia Lyttle <alyttle@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> Subject: Recycling Conference at Tulane

The National Recycling Coalition (NRC) and its' College and University Recycling Council announce the Campus Recycling Series, a sector-specific professional educational program. Designed by and for college and university solid waste and recycling managers, the Campus Recycling Series was created to provide goal-oriented information that the attendees can take back to their schools and use to reduce waste generation and become better informed to make decisions regarding solid waste management.

The Campus Recycling Series was designed to include four regional one day conferences. Building upon the success of the first conference at Illinois State University in October, CURC is proud to announce the next two conferences.

Tulane University will host the second conference in this year's inaugural Campus Recycling Series. The conference will be held at the University Center located on the campus of Tulane University in New Orleans, Louisiana. The date for the conference is Friday, February 20, 1998 from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. We encourage attendees to make hotel reservations early because this is MARDI GRAS time. Attendees can make hotel reservations by calling the Comfort Suites at 1-800-524-1140 to take advantage of the conference rate of $159 per night. Alicia Lyttle is the conference host chair. Please contact Alicia for any questions or more=20 information at alyttle@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu or 504-862-6443

Pat Moran of Johns Hopkins University has volunteered his time to host the third conference in this year's Campus Recycling Conference. The conference will be held at the Levering Student Union located on the campus of Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland. The date for the conference is Thursday, March 12, 1998 from 8:00 a.m to 4:00 p.m.

The two host chairs are working hard on the development of sessions to meet your needs. Topics covered in the campus recycling series include waste minimization, successful grant writing, food waste recycling, organic composting, organizational structuring, integrating recycling into academics, improving customer service, universal waste management, and more. Again, this conference is tailored to discuss the issues that relate directly to college and university recycling professionals. Don't miss this great opportunity!

Conference registration will be mailed out in early January for both conferences. To ensure that you are in the database for the conference call the National Recycling Coalition at 703-683-9025 ext. 404.

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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:46:56 -0600 From: "RecycleWorlds" <anderson@msn.fullfeed.com> Subject: Source Reduction Extends to Low Level Radioative Waste

Excerpted from EPA News Summary:

** NUCLEAR WASTE ** Warning of Excess Capacity In Nation's Nuclear Dumps. The New York Times, December 7, 1997, pA36. Some planned nuclear waste disposal sites may be unnecessary and could sink the industry, according to an economist. The nation's three current dumps for low-level radiation will have excess capacity well into the next century, said Gregory Hayden, a professor at the University of Nebraska. A new dump, such as the Ward Valley project in southeastern California could mean the end for the economically struggling disposal sites, Hayden said. "If it's opened, it will break the system that the rest of the nation depends on," said Hayden. "They're already in trouble because of the trickle of waste." In a report last month at the National Conference of State Legislatures, Hayden presented a report that said that the annual volume of low-level waste shipped to disposal sites dropped from 3.8 million cubic feet in 1980 to 422,000 cubic feet in 1996. Hayden attributed the excess capacity to waste reduction via recycling and new compacting technologies.

____________________________________ Peter Anderson RecycleWorlds Consulting 4513 Vernon Blvd. Ste. 15 Madison, WI 53705-4964 Phone:(608) 231-1100/Fax: (608) 233-0011 E-mail:recycle@msn.fullfeed.com

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 09:58:47 -0800 From: Helen Spiegelman <helens@axionet.com> Subject: Steve and Pat's debate on zero waste

Dear Steve and Pat and GRRN people:

Steve makes a point when he says that zero waste is not the same as 2%, 10%, and 25% increments towards zero waste. He suggests, I think correctly, that raising the performance bar over time may feel to industry more like moving the goal posts...=20

I think what Steve is talking about is that concept of Zero Waste as "a design principle for the 21st century." We had lots of good talk in Atlanta about the difference between a goal and a *design principle*. It is an important distinction that we should continue to explain to people. Steve, with his enthusiasm for the big picture can carry that message.

Steve, I find it helpful to relate zero waste to *environmental efficiency* -- efficiency is something that business people understand instinctively. Importantly, it's also something that makes sense from an environmentalist point of view, since it applies so elegantly to nature. It is genuine common ground between industry and the public interest; the kind of common ground that makes a stable foundation for good policy.

Pat Franklin, meanwhile, is talking about where the rubber hits the road. It's all very well to have agreement on general directions (principles), but we have to know whether we're heading in that direction, and how fast.

Pat argues, correctly, that the GRRN campaign is holding out some concrete measurable steps that Coke can take that the rest of the industry can measure itself against.=20

However, we need to recognize that there is a germ of "dishonesty" at the root of the GRRN campaign.

I think we have to be clear in our own minds that we don't actually expect Coke to wake up tomorrow morning and announce that they are moving unilaterally to do what we say.=20

This challenge to Coke is a rhetorical challenge. The audience is not Coke, but the general public. GRRN is using Coke as a lever to bend the attention of the general public.

Because Coke is unlikely to voluntarily comply with GRRN's demands, the campaign is actually designed to make an example of Coke, make Coke look foolish and duplicitous. It was a strategic decision (though I don't recall much discussion about it in April) to play this game with Coke as the scapegoat.

The actual best-case-scenario outcome of this game is a regulation (ideally federal!) which will create the so-called "level playing field" where the beverage industries can play their game without wrecking the environment.

When time comes to create that regulation, we will encounter a whole new array of challenges. It is not easy to structure a regulation that shifts the behaviour of industries without creating unforeseen consequences.

Cheers,

Helen Spiegelman Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA

604/731-8464 604/731-8463 (fax)

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 09:24:31 -0600 From: Bill Carter <WCARTER@tnrcc.state.tx.us> Subject: volume vs. weight based garbage collection

Does anyone have information on any communities actually using weight-based garbage collection systems for all their single-family residences? What I have read so far is that such systems are still only being implemented in test programs, and that the technology for weighing single residential cans and carts on a truck tipper--given the variability= of street slopes and other on-route factors--is still not accurate enough to satisfy the people that set standards for weights-and-measures used in pricing. I have read that weighing systems on front-load commercial dumpsters are a different story because they are rarely tipped on a significant slope, and because the need for accuracy in weighing is much less demanding -- weighing to the nearest 20 pounds is close enough when the bins typically hold hundreds of pounds of waste.

If anyone knows of newer developments, please update me.

Bill Carter, Program Specialist Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission Recycling Section, Office of Pollution Prevention & Recycling MC114 P.O. Box 13087, Austin, TX 78711-3087 USA (512) 239-6771

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 16:32:15 +0000 From: "Caroline Brimblecombe" <caroline.brimblecombe.pt@norfolk.gov.uk> Subject: volume vs. weight based garbage collection

> Does anyone have information on any communities actually using > weight-based garbage collection systems for all their single-family > residences?

They use a system like this in Denmark, for one. I can=20 get you a contact if it would be useful. From the presentation I=20 heard on it, it sounds like it has been very successful (in reducing=20 waste, plus people view it as equitable).

> What I have read so far is that such systems are still only > being implemented in test programs, and that the technology for weighing > single residential cans and carts on a truck tipper--given the variability= of > street slopes and other on-route factors--is still not accurate enough to > satisfy the people that set standards for weights-and-measures used in > pricing.

I know you are referring to US Weights and Measures but FYI=20 anyway, the Danes seem satisfied with the accuracy of their system. =20 As I recall, the trucks lift from the side. They employ a=20 "crew" of one person per truck, so it is not especially labor=20 intensive.

> Bill Carter, Program Specialist > Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission > Recycling Section, Office of Pollution Prevention & Recycling > MC114 P.O. Box 13087, Austin, TX 78711-3087 USA > (512) 239-6771 >=20

Caroline Truth Brimblecombe Norfolk County Council Norwich, United Kingdom +44 1603 222243 +44 1603 223219 fax +44 1603 613806 home ctbrim@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 21:36:06 EST From: CRRA <CRRA@aol.com> Subject: volume vs. weight based garbage collection

Bill,

Check out the San Jose multifamily program. I believe they're using weight based systems there. I'm not sure for how much of the Recycling Plus! program.

Contact: Ellen Ryan or designee at 408-277-5533.

Gary Liss

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:25:49 GMT From: Kit Strange <kit@wrf.org.uk> Subject: WASTE: Landfills biggest source of methane in England

John, > >I would be interested in other web pages that list the contribution >of landfills to methane emissions in various countries. > I certainly recommend http://europa.eu.int/en/comm/dg11/docum/96557en.doc.

This is the European Commission's Strategy Paper for Reducing Methane Emissions Communication from the Commission to the Council and the European Parliament. Th ewhole site is well worth a visit.

Best wishes,

Kit

PS Don't forget to add Warmer Bulletin to Dane County's waste management news release mailing list!

Warmer Bulletin, journal of the World Resource Foundation.

URL=3Dhttp://www.wrf.org.uk

PRISM - Preserving Resources through Integrated Sustainable Management of Waste - WRF's Internet service.

World Resource Foundation Tel +44 1732 368 333 Bridge House Fax +44 1732 368 337 High Street, Tonbridge Kent TN9 1DP England

email kit@wrf.org.uk

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