When designed right, I believe that recycling programs are cost-competitive
with trash collection and disposal. It is true that in some communities
recycling is expensive. But often that is because these communities are
still recycling at very low rates and are treating recycling as an add-on
to their traditional trash system rather than as a replacement for it.
Communities that maximize recycling save money by redesigning their
collection schedules and/or trucks.
Recycling critics erroneously assume that virtually all the costs of the
solid waste system are fixed, that is, represent long-term capital
investments. This assumption leads them to view recycling as an add-on
cost and therefore expensive. In fact, when recycling reaches high levels
and system managers view it as the way they collect wastes, then fixed
costs can become variable costs. Labor can be reassigned. Twenty percent
of the fleet vehicles turn over annually and can be redesigned and reduced
in scale and cost. Baltimore, Maryland, for example, uses the same
conventional trash trucks to collect recyclables and trash, separately and
at different times. This minimized its upfront costs and allowed Baltimore
to add recycling with no increase in its solid waste budget. Loveland,
Colorado, uses the same vehicles to collect recyclables and trash, but does
so simultaneously. Loveland recovers 56% of its residential waste. Cost
per household did not rise when the City added recycling. Plano, Texas
replaced one of its two trash collection days with collection of
recyclables and yard waste at no additional costs. Takoma Park, Maryland
did the same. The City avoided hiring additional employees by splitting
collection crews between recycling and trash. Not only has the number of
trucks remained the same, but they have not been replaced and need less
maintenance as a result of decreased trash collected; half of Takoma Park's
waste is recovered. The economics of materials recovery improves when,
instead of adding the costs of recycling and composting onto the costs of
conventional collection and disposal, the two are integrated.
Brenda
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Brenda A. Platt
Institute for Local Self-Reliance
2425 18th Street, NW, Washington, DC 20009
(202) 232-4108 fax (202) 332-4108
e-mail: bplatt@igc.org
ILSR web page http://www.ilsr.org
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:38:37 -0800 (PST)
From: bplatt@igc.org (Brenda Platt)
Subject: Exemplary Waste Reducers
Marjorie and others,
Yes, the question of costs is critical! Our project will seek to document
"cost-effective" waste reduction record-setters.
Marjorie asks: "how much do successful waste prevention,
recycling, and composting programs cost (in the aggregate, per ton, and per
capita) and how much waste is prevented, recycled and composted. How much
is spent on educational measures where prevention and recycling rates are
high (aggregate, per ton, per capita), and what kinds (i.e. approaches,
frequency, etc) of education and enforcement measures are most effective?"
For the 20 communities we profile in detail, we'll look at these kinds of
costs issues. I'll keep y'all posted.
When designed right, I believe that recycling programs are cost-competitive
with trash collection and disposal. It is true that in some communities
recycling is expensive. But often that is because these communities are
still recycling at very low rates and are treating recycling as an add-on
to their traditional trash system rather than as a replacement for it.
Communities that maximize recycling save money by redesigning their
collection schedules and/or trucks.
Recycling critics erroneously assume that virtually all the costs of the
solid waste system are fixed, that is, represent long-term capital
investments. This assumption leads them to view recycling as an add-on
cost and therefore expensive. In fact, when recycling reaches high levels
and system managers view it as the way they collect wastes, then fixed
costs can become variable costs. Labor can be reassigned. Twenty percent
of the fleet vehicles turn over annually and can be redesigned and reduced
in scale and cost. Baltimore, Maryland, for example, uses the same
conventional trash trucks to collect recyclables and trash, separately and
at different times. This minimized its upfront costs and allowed Baltimore
to add recycling with no increase in its solid waste budget. Loveland,
Colorado, uses the same vehicles to collect recyclables and trash, but does
so simultaneously. Loveland recovers 56% of its residential waste. Cost
per household did not rise when the City added recycling. Plano, Texas
replaced one of its two trash collection days with collection of
recyclables and yard waste at no additional costs. Takoma Park, Maryland
did the same. The City avoided hiring additional employees by splitting
collection crews between recycling and trash. Not only has the number of
trucks remained the same, but they have not been replaced and need less
maintenance as a result of decreased trash collected; half of Takoma Park's
waste is recovered. The economics of materials recovery improves when,
instead of adding the costs of recycling and composting onto the costs of
conventional collection and disposal, the two are integrated.
Brenda
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Brenda A. Platt
Institute for Local Self-Reliance
2425 18th Street, NW, Washington, DC 20009
(202) 232-4108 fax (202) 332-4108
e-mail: bplatt@igc.org
ILSR web page http://www.ilsr.org
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:11:55 -0500 (EST)
From: CRRA@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: FF '97
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Forwarded message:
From: john@hemptech.com (John Roulac)
To: carolyne@hemptech.com (Carolyne Stayton), info@tradhound.com,
CRRA@aol.com (gary liss), robin@mrwmd.org (Robin Salsburg),
hlewis@rmit.edu.au, MCTIFFD2@fs1.li.umist.ac.uk (Fabio D'Ottaviano),
Billysun@wildrockies.org, JGlenn6874@aol.com, ballingkm@conrad.appstate.edu,
noblitt@igc.apc.org, earthlynne@earthlink.net (lynn Elizabeth),
EHRENSID@css.orst.edu (Ehrensing, Daryl T.), DDarrelD@aol.com (Darrel),
sholtea@wheel.datcp.state.wi.us (Bud Sholts)
Date: 97-02-24 21:46:57 EST
FIBER FUTURES '97
Conference and Product Expo
Monterey, California
June 1 & 2, 1997
Dear Friend,
We are pleased to announce Fiber Futures '97, a conference and product=20
expo featuring environmentally preferred fibers for paper, building=
products,
textiles and more. Mark your calendars now to attend this exciting event!
Fiber Futures '97 will take place June 1-2 in Monterey, California in
tandem with the California Resource Recovery Association's statewide
recycling conference. Because CRRA's event typically attracts over 850
attendees and Fiber Futures '97 is expected to attract up to 200, we=20
expect a tremendous turn-out of participants, speakers and exhibitors.
David Morris, co-founder of the Institute for Local Self Reliance, is our
keynote speaker. He is guaranteed to inspire positive visions of a
carbohydrate economy that is both environmentally and economically sound
for the 21st Century. Additionally, another 20 speakers will discuss
emerging markets, breakthrough uses, exciting research & development and
successful case studies of companies producing and marketing products
utilizing featured fibers.
Never before has a dedicated conference brought together people under this
common banner. Architects,builders,designers, buyers, marketers, farmers,
industrialists, financiers, environmentalists and government officials are
will meet to learn more about the importance of using and choosing straw,
organic cotton, jute, hemp, flax, kenaf, bamboo and other fibers over
synthetic and tree-dependent fibers. Businesses will demonstrate the
growing appreciation for the uses of these alternative and agricultural
fibers.
Highlights include:
Paper Pavilion
Builders & Designers Showcase
Sustainable Fibers Fashion Show
Exhibit and Dislay Booths
Partial List of Speakers:
Introductory Plenary
Jeff Gain
U. S. Dept. of Agriculture=20
Alternative Agriculture Research Corporation
=09
Keynote Speaker
David Morris, Institute for Local Self Reliance
Ag-Fibers as the Building Blocks to a Carbohydrate Economy
Randy Wise, CEO, FiberTech USA, Inc. =20
Developing The Country=B9s First Rice Straw Particleboard Plant
Julie Lewis, former president, Deja Shoes
Don=B9t Let the Venture Capitalists Become Vultures
Rick Torreano, Western Sales Manager, Fox River Paper Co.
Tree-free Paper Utilizing Bamboo - A Fast-growing,=20
Renewable Resource
Sue Hall, Environmental Advantage
Worlwide Availability of Straw
Mike Brown, Environmental Affairs, Patagonia
Committing to Organic Cotton
Jeff Lindenthal, Green Field Paper Company
The Best of All Worlds - Mixing Fibers
Allied Organizations
Architects, Designers & Planners for Social Responsibility
California Resource Recovery Association
American Bamboo Society
International Kenaf Association
New Uses Council
North American Industrial Hemp Council
Organic Cotton Association=20
General Registration Fees:
$ 95 per person $ 75 for farmers =20
$ 75 for members of allied associations
Exhibitor Registration Fees:=20
8' x 10' booth, with 6' table + 2 chairs,=20
$325 includes one full registration=20
Additional registrants: =09
$45=09
Make Checks Payable to =B3CRRA=B2 and send to:
California Resource Recovery Association (CRRA)
824 Munras Avenue, Suite C
Monterey, CA 93940
Telephone (408) 655-3209 =80 Fax (408) 373-0460
Fed. ID# 23-7197715
Conference Location:
Fiber Futures =8C97 will be held in Monterey, California at the DoubleTree
Hotel and Monterey Conference Center in the heart of the downtown area,
adjacent to Fisherman=B9s Wharf. For room reservations call the DoubleTree
Hotel at (408) 649-4511. Ask for CRRA special discount of $97/single or
double before May 9th or call the on-site conference planners at (408)
655-3209 for lower cost accomodations (limited number of rooms available).
For travel arrangements call Dirt Cheap Travel at (707) 824-2550.
Message from the Conference Staff:
Our main goal is to increase the awareness and profitability of
environmentally sustainable fibers for use in paper, textiles, building and
various other industries while bringing together investors, planners,
architects, builders, designers, manufacturers, marketers and farmers to=
help
these burgeoning industries succeed. =20
For More Information
Fibers Futures =8C97 Conference Coordinator: Jeanne Trombly at =20
(707) 823-2800 ext. *46 =80 FAX (707) 823-2424 =80 info@fiberfutures.com
Please email or fax your name, address and phone number so that we can send
you a
full conference registration brochure or exhibitor packet. =20
Thanks for your interest. We look foward to seeing you in Monterey!
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 14:16:47 +0000
From: <nutsnbolts@main.galaxy-7.net> (Susan Appel - Nuts n Bolts Recycling)
Subject: Job Opening -please post
JOB ANNOUNCEMENT Nuts 'n' Bolts Recycling
General Manager 2533 Westlake Ave N.
1/97 Seattle, Wa 98109-2235
206-285-1489
GENERAL DESCRIPTION: =20
This position offers a unique opportunity to play a key role in the=20
future of a steadily growing recycling company. Specifically, the=20
opportunities are to manage a small company, to develop future=20
strategies for Nuts 'n' Bolts from both an operational, growth and=20
directional perspective, and to become an integral part of a company=20
that has created a vital niche in the local recycling industry. The=20
general manager will oversee all the operations, personnel and expansion=20
activities of the company. This is a new position within a revised=20
management structure. A higher level of experience and skill is needed=20
to evolve our recycling business.=20
The initial goal for the general manager is to maintain and expand our=20
economic viability and long-term health by:
Improving the efficiency of our operations through organizational=20
changes (personnel, systems, etc.), strategic planning and creative=20
programming, while balancing improvements with fiscal realities;
Managing the implementation of a number of physical plant and equipment=20
renovation projects which are designed to improve our efficiency, make=20
our work areas more worker-friendly and decrease the physical demands on=20
our drivers and yard workers; and
Renovating the overall management of personnel with a focus on personal=20
responsibility, job satisfaction, safety, and job performance.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR:=20
We want a manager with a vast amount of energy, creativity and ability=20
to take Nuts 'n' Bolts to a whole new level. Specifically, we are=20
looking for:
Skills & experience:=20
Essential: A blend of "blue collar" experience, values and interest=20
(one who likes to get her/his hands dirty) with the "white collar"=20
skills and experience in fiscal management and planning, and personnel=20
and growth management. Experience in the planning and implementation of=20
projects as well as overseeing the daily flow of work. Experience with=20
budgets, preferably within the private sector. Computer literate=20
(especially Mac).
Desirable: An understanding of the recycling industry with more=20
specific experience in one or more related aspects (such as collection,=20
processing, end-usermarkets, etc.) Some experience as a truck driver or=20
in the trucking industry. =20
Helpful: Familiarity with the city of Seattle and its neighborhoods,=20
especially north of Yesler. Experience with tools, material handling=20
systems and equipment. Experience with routing and/or dispatching.
Attitude: Wants to be part of a team. Understands and appreciates one's=20
own skills and talents and is willing to share the limelight with=20
others. A people person, but not afraid of saying and doing the "hard"=20
tasks of evaluation and handling personnel issues. Understands the=20
critical relationship between job performance and successful personnel=20
management. Excels at planning, projecting, and implementing projects=20
and systems to accomplish stated goals; yet, balances meeting goals on=20
time with caring for the people involved in meeting those goals.=20
"Compulsive" and "driven" may be positive qualities for this job. A=20
sense of humor is essential. Committed to doing the best job one can do;=20
interested in recycling; able to take pride in a job well-done; honest,=20
willing to admit one's mistakes and learn from them; interested in=20
learning; knows what "hard work" is and is willing to do it in order to=20
succeed; self-aware; able to stay calm even in stressful situations.
Commitment: We see this as a concrete opportunity for a long-term=20
position with plentiful opportunities for personal, financial and=20
occupational growth. We are looking for a multi-year commitment.
Pay scale: To be determined in negotiations, dependent upon=20
experience, ability and performance during a 30-day trial period. =20
Range is $25,000 (during trial period) to $40,000. Gaining additional=20
financial benefits above and beyond this range are tied to the=20
improvements she/he makes in the company. As Nuts 'n' Bolts becomes=20
more profitable, those profits will be shared among the GM, workers and=20
owners. Medical and dental benefits are available after 30 days with the=20
company.
Physical condition: This job involves some hard physical work, part of=20
it outdoors; applicants should be quite fit; some driving and moving of=20
recyclables is likely.
Special Notes:=20
Nuts 'n' Bolts is a No-Smoking company.=20
Women and people of color are encouraged to apply.
SOMETHING ABOUT NUTS 'N' BOLTS RECYCLING (NB):=20
We've been in the recycling business since 1976. Nuts 'n' Bolts got its=20
official start in October, 1986 and has been growing steadily ever=20
since. We serve the Seattle area from south of downtown, north to 145th. =20
NB picks up glass bottles and jars, tin cans, aluminum cans, plastic=20
bottles, newspaper, cardboard and mixed waste paper --in a=20
source-separated system--from apartments, condos, restaurants, taverns=20
and other businesses. The materials, once picked up, are taken to=20
processors/brokers who then sell or re-use them or are brought back to=20
our facility for pre-sorting before selling to these brokers/processors. =20
We are the largest apartment recycling in the city of Seattle and one=20
of two companies under contract with the City of Seattle which =20
provides recycling services to apartment buildings and condos in the=20
north-end of the city.
Currently, with a staff of twelve, I oversee the mechanic and two=20
managers (office and operations), who in turn manage the remaining=20
staff. The new management structure will replace two managers with a=20
general manager and area lead people. NB operates 5 days a week;=20
Monday-Friday from 6:45 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. We are physically located in=20
north Seattle, just north of downtown.=20
We work hard and take pride in our work. Paying attention to detail,=20
using good judgment and being dependable and fair to our customers and =20
workers are very important. We strive to work with our workers, not=20
boss over them. Recycling is an ethic with us as well as our=20
livelihood. We work toward a balance of running a responsible,=20
profitable and efficient business and being flexible and caring with our=20
co-workers. We are seeking someone who likes to work hard, doing work=20
she/he believes in, and who strives to be the best and do the best job=20
he/she can.
If you are this kind of person and if Nuts 'n' Bolts sounds interesting,=20
please contact us by mail or fax (206-213-0982--available during=20
business hours only). Send us your resume and salary requirements, along=20
with a letter of interest addressing how you see yourself filling this=20
position and meeting our expectations. A more complete set of=20
questions will be sent to eligible applicants. Initial letters of=20
interest are due by March 17, 1997.
Thank you.
Susan Appel
President
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:22:45 -0800 (PST)
From: "David A. Kirkpatrick" <dkirkwks@igc.org>
Subject: Mining Shame
SHAME, SHAME: A move by Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt to seek new=20
bonding requirements for hardrock mining are "shamefully inadequate,"=20
says Philip Hocker of the Mineral Policy Center. Greenwire reports=20
that Babbitt is "abandoning hopes that [the 105th] Congress will=20
reform" the 1872 Mining Act and is proposing instead to use his=20
administrative powers to impose "stricter environmental regulations" on=20
the mining industry. Babbitt told the Washington Post that his=20
initiatives were a "poor substitute for the kind of overhaul" the 1872=20
Mining Law needs. =20
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GREEN
GrassRoots Environmental Effectiveness Network
A project of Defenders of Wildlife
1101 14th St. NW, Suite 1400, Washington, DC 20005
(202) 682-9400 x290 fax:(202) 682-1331 e-mail: rfeather@clark.net
check out our web page at: http://www.defenders.org/grnhome.html
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:31:16 -0700
From: cdchase@qualcomm.com (Carolyn Chase)
Subject: Online Seminar with Herman Daly, BEYOND GROWTH
Online Seminar with Herman Daly
ANNOUNCEMENT: Online Seminar via email with Professor Herman Daly to
discuss his 1996 book, BEYOND GROWTH: The Economics of Sustainable
Development.
According to David Orr, Professor and Chair of the Environmental Studies
program at Oberlin College:
"For clarity of vision and ecological wisdom Herman Daly has no peer among
contemporary economists. For everyone concerned about the transition to a
sustainable and sustaining economy, BEYOND GROWTH is essential reading."
The seminar will commence the morning of Monday March 17, 1997 which we
hope will give interested parties sufficient time to purchase and read
the book. The publisher, Beacon Press, is offering a 20% discount on
the book to the participants of the seminar. See the specifics below.
The discussion will focus on the issues raised in the book. Anyone can
submit comments or questions but the moderators will accept only those
submissions that reflect familiarity with the book. Herman Daly will be
online to give his input on some of the submitted questions or answers. We
have a distinguished group of moderators and expect a superb discussion.
Persons who would just like to listen are very welcome. Those who
participate (submit messages to ISEE-Daly@csf.colorado.edu)
are expected to be familiar with _Beyond_Growth_
To participate or just listen to the discussion, please send an e-mail
message of: sub isee-daly yourfirstname yourlastname
To: LISTPROC@csf.colorado.edu
If you are interested in the seminar please subscribe now. There will be
no traffic on the list until Monday morning, March 17. The discussion
will last two weeks.
Herman Daly is the recipient of
--the Grawemeyer Award for Ideas Improving World Order
--the 1996 Heineken Prize for Environmental Science by the Royal
Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
-- the Right Livelihood Foundation award "to honor and support those
offering practical and exemplary answers to the most urgent challenges
facing us today."
The seminar is co-sponsored by:
ISEE: International Society for Ecological Economics
CSF: Communications for a Sustainable Future
________________________________________________________
Beacon Press is generously providing a discount of 20% to participants of
the ISEE-Daly discussion.
There are a variety of ways to order the book:
1) Access Beacon's discount order form via the ISEE, CSF, or Beacon=
Websites:
http://kabir.cbl.cees.edu/ISEE/ISEEhome.html
http://csf.colorado.edu/ISEE
http://www.beacon.org/Beacon/promo/hdaly.html
2) If you're ordering by credit card, fax the Web order form (available via
the sites mentioned above) to Beacon at 617.723.3097.
3) Order by phone using a credit card. Call Beacon directly at
617.742.2110, ext. 596., and mention code ISEE.
4) Mail the Web order form, with your check or credit card info to
Beacon Press, 25 Beacon St., Boston, MA 02108, USA.
_________________________________________________________
We look forward to a rigorous and stimulating discussion with Professor
Daly and look forward to seeing you online.
Professor Don Roper, University of Colorado, CSF-Editor
roper@csf.colorado.edu
Douglas Hinrichs, ISEE Executive Director, ISEE Bulletin Editor
hinrichs@cbl.cees.edu
>From Beacon Press:
Named one of a hundred "visionaries who could change your life" by the
Utne Reader, Herman Daly has probably been the most prominent advocate
of the need for a change in economic thinking in response to
environmental crisis. An iconoclast economist who has worked as a
renegade insider at the World Bank in recent years, Daly has argued
for overturning some basic economic assumptions. He has won a wide and
growing reputation among a wide array of environmentalists, inside and
outside the academy.
Herman Daly is Senior Research Scholar at the School of Public
Affaris at the University of Maryland. He worked for several years at
the World Bank. He is co-author of the influential
For_the_Common_Good, among other books. More information can be
obtained at http://csf.colorado.edu/isee/daly
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:39:00 -0500 (EST)
From: CRRA@aol.com
Subject: Paul Relis Reappointed
On Thursday, February 27, 1997, Paul Relis and Bob Frazee were reappointed=
by
Governor Pete Wilson to the CA Integrated Waste Management Board.
Congratulations!
Gary Liss
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 14:07:30 +0000
From: <nutsnbolts@main.galaxy-7.net> (Susan Appel - Nuts n Bolts Recycling)
Subject: Please post
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 14:01:41 +0000
From: <nutsnbolts@main.galaxy-7.net> (Susan Appel - Nuts n Bolts Recycling)
Subject: subscribe
subscribe greenyes nutsnbolts@galaxy-7.net
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:50:39 +0600
From: "John Reindl 608-267-8815" <reindl@co.dane.wi.us>
Subject: Why no mail?
Dear List Members -
I'm looking for help to solve the problem of why I don't get any mail=20
from GreenYes.
I don't know when the problem started, but I realized a couple of weeks=20
ago that I wasn't getting any of the GreenYes mail, even though I am a=20
subscriber and in checking Listserv, find that I am now subscribed 3=20
times.
Has anyone else had the problem of not getting their mail, and found a=20
way to again receive it? If they have, I would greatly appreciate any=20
suggestions you have for me to again receive the mail.
thanks!!
John Reindl
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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 97 20:40:20 PST
From: jennie.alvernaz@sfsierra.sierraclub.org
Subject: Zero Waste Ver 2.0
[Forwarded from Peter Anderson concerning GRN Zero Waste, Ver.2.0]
Two things:
1. I think that external landfill impacts (need to ban organic material to=
=20
make landfills safe) should be inserted above production impacts -- as=20
in interim step. This is because not only do we really not know=20
whether front or back end externalities are higher, but also because,=20
right or wrong, drinking water in our back yard (albeit our grandkids)=20
is more immediate than fucking over natives in the wilds of Brazil etc).
2. The objection to recycle and trash flow control seems worded so=20
broadly as to disapprove over all franchise arrangements, or indeed,=20
some publicly operated collection systems. In the real world, I don't=20
know how it will be possible to achieve efficient systems in some=20
settings without the efficiencies from comprehensive programs. To=20
protect the little entrepreneur aiming at a small slice of the waste=20
stream, maybe not holler at franchised operations with costs spread=20
over all that also permits little guys to come and make whatever=20
arrangements they want.
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End of GreenYes Digest V97 #44
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